Upcoming Change To PlayStation 3 And PSP Game Content On PlayStation Network

I don’t think Sony understand how many people buy their games because they can be shared. For example: A $20 game may not be worth it for one person, but if you can share it with 3 or 4 friends, now the value is great. Even more so if none of those people had the means to buy the game. And here Sony makes $20 where previously they would have made $0.

I’ve personally spent upwards of $200 on downloaded games, and I can say pretty confidently, I’m going to be buying way less now. I can really see Sony regretting this.

Totally understandable but you better get that online deactivator up before-hand or your gonna have a ton of unhappy people.

@Gordon Thornton
Vice President, Network Operations

You have no legal rights to do this as my account is max 4 it was maxed 5 until i phoned PSN to unlock to max 4 only have 1 left im using it on my playstation 3 slim line 120 GB
so basically if you don’t unlock my full account to 1 again as playstation network who i phoned only do it 1 at a time making it difficult for me to transfer if i get a playstation 4 or new playstation 3 slim line 160 GB your breaking my legal rights as a playstation network customer by taking my payed downloads away from me iv spent over £350 in playstation store. you have no legal rights to do this.

while i am pretty upset to be reading this, im happy it doesnt affect previous purchases and im happy we can still homeshare with 2 consoles. Thats more than the 360 can do at least

Immortal wolf, don’t understand what your talking about. It does not affect previous downloaded titles, only the future ones. If your not happy with the new policy just don’t buy anything else. I’m glad they have done this as it will stop game sharing, and people only have themselves to blame as I have seen a fair few people on here bragging how they are going to buy games and split the cost with 4 friends, not any more you won’t lol

Boycott anyone? lol.

Oh and people talking about it’s not fair taking them away, who actually has 5 consoles?? I’m sorry but it’s bull if you say you have, can understand 2, but come on.

I hope this means I can deactivate all my old YLOD machines – of which there are MANY

@ the game-sharing people posting here, especially RedeyedRonin; were you all born stupid? Game-sharing is actually breaking the PSN T’s & C’s. Show some humility and admit you’re in the wrong.
Trying to find ways around it, Ronin, is exactly the kind of action that results in further restrictions. Will all due respect, they should just ban you for your utter ignorance.

I do sympathise with the users who do adhere, it will be a nuisance but we all know why it’s happening.

@Immortal-Wolf-; the change doesn’t infringe your rights. It ‘will not affect game content purchased before November 18′. You’re accepting different conditions only for content bought after then.

Understandable but really get the cost of most PSN games down.
For example Battlefield 3 in my country on PS Store costs 239 zł.
Average (new) game from a traditional store costs 190 zł more or less.
You can get BF3 for like 169 zł even.
I would really love to play BF3 without changing the disc but for that price really go ………… and I better not end it
I like the idea that you can deactivate your PS3 from a web page.
Got an YLOD two years ago so it’s good to have an alternative now.

Well, another ball dropped on Sony’s part. I was annoyed with the updates and gave up on the PSP after games stopped running on 1.50 FW. I chose to stay offline for a few months when the FW that removed Linux was released (I got a secondhand system to keep the old PS3 functional, yet keep playing games without rewarding Sony). And it seems they keep CUTTING things from the console. How the hell is that a good idea and why aren’t these people being fired?

I’m glad I pay so little for my games, I’d hate to be rewarding such stupid decisions.

I believe it’s gameshares which has caused the high price if dd’s as they openly talk on these forums about doing it, so they up the price as they know the people who share will still buy them. Once this comes into play we should see a more resonable price for the big budget games. Also fair enough if you have more than 2 consoles, but I’m sure you have ones you use more reg than others and will be able to deactivate an reactivate accordingly. Also while I’m banging on, people mention about sharing with wives, kids etc, so what? If you bought it on disk you couldn’t share with anyone, so why should it be different with dd. For the first time I’m supporting Sony on a decision, as like I said, lower prices and no more emails from randoms or friends asking for my account info to download games or dlc.

So on Tuesday, I called Sony to have my account deactivated because I somehow reached the max (I knew of 4, don’t know where the 5th one went) and one of the PS3s I had my account on broke. I called in to get that broken activation back and they gave me the one time courtesy deactivation which I’m very grateful for, but I’m curious if my call had anything to do with the recent cut.

As far as that goes, will this cut affect EVERYTHING purchased on PSN after 11/18? I could understand Sony’s stand on this for games, but what about add-on content such as Rock Band DLCs? Will those be affected as well?

yes maybe 5 times was too much but twice is too few could at least kept it to 3 times

This is wrong in so many levels: Ihave two PS3s at home, a PSP and was considering getting a third PS3 for a different house, so I can play when I go there. I mean, seriously?

Two systems is too low, get it on three systems, and I’d think that’s fair while at the same time not promoting game sharing.

OMG YUSSSS! You guys just made my day I’ll be able to get my dead ps3s activationsss back
Also good news for new developers who are worried about game sharing and such. Bit if a shame about the vita being included as a psp, but we’ll all get over that.

THANK YOU SONY

We have 5 PS3′s in our house 1 each as we like to play online together,
this is unfair to family’s and i will not be buying Games, DLC as i would have to now buy this 3 times and will not re-new my PS+.
It would of been better if they could of done a IP address restriction on the 5 accounts so all the PS3 systems had to be in the same house.

I’ve got 2 PS3 System and I would like to buy a PSP. If I buy and download PSone and minies titels, can I activate them on 2 PS3 and 1 PSP or in that case I have to deactivate one of these system?
PLEASE ANSWER!

@Project2insanity
get your facts right JACK TRETON himself promoted the gameshare idea he said LIVE ON THE E3 STAGE and i QUOTE
“NO OTHER CONSOLE LETS YOU SHARE YOUR GAMES WITH YOUR FRIENDS”

then soon after it became what your talking about a violation which i myself haven’t violated because i only share with my close friends which is what jack is saying, i put my account on my mates ps3 so i can play my games at his house when im there.
which is the purpose of the 5 activations in the first place
in a nutshell its mine i bought it and i should be able to play it on a controled number of ps3′s its as simple as that!

This is just another reason why discs will always be better than digital content.

You should only make it one copy but allow people to either burn or copy to a memory stick (locked down to 1) so that it can be played on multiple, this will allow people to show their friends what they’ve gotten (which will lead to more sales) or use on multiple systems they own. (as we should be able to play our downloads anywhere in our house)

@217 An IP address restriction is not fair to people who have a PS3 at their main residence and at their holiday/weekend home.
If you have 2 PS3′s on your account, can you still play the minis from the same account on your PSP? You should if you can’t choose which games to deactivate a system for.
This new policy won’t just affect game sharers but also the real big Playstation buyers, like those who also buy systems for their children.

Well, guess I have two PS3s to sell now… Good way to tell your customers not to buy any hardware SONY, read you loud and clear! So much for the Vita now it’s DOA.

@RedeyedRonin; So your lack of humility comes from a statement made by a guy, before launch, whom doesn’t personally set the conditions.
If Jack Tretton told you it’s fine to break into Sony, would that make it okay? If Jack Tretton told you to steal Playstation games from stores, would that make it okay?

Just for the record, you yourself also stated it became a ‘violation’ soon after. And on top of that, your last two posts contradict each other; one mentions you want to split cost, the other that you bought the content. How about you ‘get your facts right’!?

OMG…listen to you all, the only people here that are doing loads of complaining are probably all game-sharers anyway, and another thing, to all of you saying that you have 3 or 4 PS3′s maybe more, what do you see as a problem, you seriously cannot be telling me you can simultaniously play on 3 or 4 PS3′s at any given one time, exactly…and just how hard is it to deactivate one of your devices, especially now that Sony are releasing a new PSN account management system to make it even easier, it will be slightly intrusive and cut a few seconds off your gaming time while you deactivate and re-activate one of your devices at best, hardly anything to work up a fuss about…

So just stop complaining, if you want to moan and complain, go and do it to all the game-sharers, there the ones that have caused Sony to take such action because they where abusing the current system.

Bottom line, if your stupid enough to give your PSN account details to anyone anyway and risk account compromise then you deserve everything you get and have no right to complain. I for one support this decsion by Sony. Well done Sony, good move. Support always and bring on the PS Vita!

Finally to anyone that says “I am not getting a PSVita anymore”, you probably will anyway and besides, Sony hasn’t officially stated its DRM policy for the new system so for all you know, it could share PSP activations or it could have 2 device activations of its own. No one knows until Sony announces anything!

@ 217 What if your child moves out and wants to take his PS3 with him/her. With an IP address restriction all content would be blocked.

This decision is unfair
It will fall to the ground management Sony!
xbox360 many of you the best ….

by bitbydeath
born you self

not a contradiction more grammar error i meant you could split if you wanted to, and it wasn’t just some guy JACK TETTON is CEO (or head whatever) of SCEA he made that statement 1 YEAR AFTER PS3 RELEASE lack humanity pffffft i dont even buy from the psn store since the hack, and even then i rarely bothered so just shut up defending a company taking more away than giving. get a life!

As someone with 5 PSPs and who is getting a Vita

Ow.

@ @Project2insanity ^^

This is really good idea, espacially activation or deactivation by PC. You have my full support.

I don’t really see the problem lowering the limit for PS3:s to only two, since most households will not have more than one anyway and you will be able deactivate a console without physical access to it (otherwise broken units might use up the two slots). But I think it is a stupid move for PSP where a family might actually own more than two units.

Why not sell the PSN games in two flavors, one edition with a limit of two and another edition at a slightly higher price with a limit of five? Or making five the default limit for PS Plus users. Or simply keep the current five limit license… that would of course be the best solution.

The ‘Icing’ has been on the cake for a few months now.More & more Full Games for D/L.Yes , I fell for it ! I noticed the other week that I was buying more & more from the store.I also began to question my own judgement,something just didnt feel right.Yes,my wife and daughter share my D/Loads,cant see anything wrong in that.Still,this ‘niggling’ feeling inside over the direction the PS3 was going in wouldnt leave though!The store is full of ‘Network passes’,'Elite Memberships’etc.etc.I reflected on all the ‘Dead’ Consoles gone since launch date,the lost profiles,all the ‘Un-recoverable’past wev’e had with Sony,some days I got really sad that everything has gone the way it has.I dont want an X-Box or to play on PC.Ive thought for a while about just ‘Dumping’ my profile and starting over.I thought the days of Discs were ending,but,I think this could well be thier revival.Good Luck everyone,think carefully about your future moves,and dont get caught out. Cya all.

SOOO NOW EVERY COUNTRY HAS A PSN STORE ?!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I DONT THINK SO , I HAVE TO CUT OF MY FAMILY IN SLOVAKIA ! NICE STEP BACK SONY ! I THOGHT I BUY VITA BUT THEN I HAVE TO GET RID OF 3 from 4 OF MY PSPs I SEE THE PLANS FOR PS4 NOW …. THERE ARE COUNTRYS THAT DONT HAVE STORE AND HAVE NO OTHER CHANCE TO GET THERE DID YOU THINK ABOUT THEM ? NO . $$$$$$$$$$$$$

@xx_Tooms109_xx

Nah, it does still work. I tried it on Mortal Kombat and Call of Duty.

And another amazing DOWNgrade in the $ony service system…

And what about the stability of that website?
I can remember from the hack that the reset-password site has been offline for months. How are you going to guarantee high availability on this website?

And can I use that website from the PS3 web(-notso-)browser?

And what about people that have divorced parents and therefore 1 PS3 at moms/dads home and 2 at the other?
Or those that play games at a friends house at a weekly basis and therefore have the game installed at there PS3 also?

Voting 1-stars for this horrible downgrade in service. Instead of this stupid change what about a new (non google) webbrowser? Or the remove of backup-prohibitation on my precious savegames?

@udobald
If they did a IP restriction for the 5 accounts and a child moves out and wishes to take their PS3 with them then Sony could let them have a one time PSN id change to carry all their game and trophy content over.

How does this affect PSN Minis? These can be installed/played on PS3 and PSP.
Does these new rules mean they can be activated on upto 2 PS3s as well as 2 PSP’s or combination of the two but limited to two activiations i.e. 1 x PS3 and 1 x PSP.

Thanks

This is very disappointing as I have three children with PS3′s and myself, I have many digital games and was lucky to purchase 1 game that could be downloaded onto all 4 consoles. If this new change works for only 2 activated accounts im no longer supporting digital downloads. Long Live Discs

If this helps lower the ridiculous prices for some downloadable games on the store I am all for it, but I do only have one PS3 and one PSP so the effect on me will be minimal.

@RedeyedRonin; Wow, you couldn’t have really missed the point any more than you did…

Does this mean we can deactivate our slots online? I’m on my fourth PS3 and running out of slots. Tried getting them reset in the past but I got denied because I had the common sense to get extended warranties rather than fork out £180 a time for Sony to replace it.

This has the potential to be much more counter productive than game sharing it will just make lives more difficult for those that genuinely have multiple ps3s and game sharers can now celebrate that they can now share with as many people as they want just only one at a time then simply deactivate the users system and activate another once the user has finished with the game got all the trophies etc then share the game with someone else then repeat the dectivate/activate process so it actually could become more of a game borrowing with limitless activations.
not sayin i condone such actions just that people will potentialy exploit the new activate/deactivate thing
and as usual its legitimate users thatare inconvenienced

Sony has been failing to innovate in the last few years, asked too much of us all in May but we stuck with them and then they go and do this! As consumers we shouldn’t just let this pass! If you agree join the “Prevent the End of Game Sharing on PlayStation” group on Facebook so we can be heard! http://www.facebook.com/groups/143119859122714

I don’t mind the limitation, so long as it does come with a way to remotely deactivate my old, now defunct PS3 which was hit with the YLOD. I have exactly two PS3 (one in my home and one in my usual vacation location which is far enough from my home that carrying PS3 and games every time is a chore), so as long as I can axe the third I couldn’t care less about the limitation, it still serves me well.

That said, having the leeway that 3 systems would provide would likely be better in case YLOD strikes, but eh – Sony’s choice.

@ RSDHALIWAL

well,i just de-activated my ps3 and call of duty classic certainly doesnt work ….Or any of my downloaded games off the store.

you must have a very special ps3 my friend.

Thats a shame for households/people with more than 2 ps3′s.

Had three myself up until recently ( 40gig got ylod ) and liked the fact that I could have all the games,dlc on all consoles and use it on anyone of them without having to activate/deactivate a console every time I wanted to use the games/dlc that I paid for.

Now I know it only effects games/dlc from the 18th onwards but for me it’s a move in the wrong direction and takes away for me what was a major selling point of the ps3 in the first place.

I was planning on replacing my 40gig ylod with a new slim as a Christmas treat to myself but I think I’ll just leave it at two .

The move to make activating/deactivating consoles easier is a good move and long overdue.

Another downgrade,?.. it is further adding to that overstated, tired pr add.. it only does everything, as people say though it is good to know that ‘constant’ gamesharers will be the Biggest losers, but it is also impacting on the more legit gamesharers, as was allready stated the 5 downloads is, sorry Was a big influence for some, family’s or other such buyers,.. But i gotta love the way sony/sce etc soften this ‘Massive’ downgrade by including the ability to remote deactivate dead consoles, and better still how some see that as a bonus, and how brilliant sony are for providing us with this ‘Futuristic’ ability,,,, Get a grip guys, Why are you’s bieng gratefull for such a small, simple to implement but Years overdue anyway, feature,?.. Surely that ability could, Should,?.. of been available as ‘standard’ long ago, My opinion is that it is just wrong to move the goalposts, Though if more new disc downloadle games are a reason for this action, ie more are planned, then apply the limited download allowance to just those type of games, which is something i would agree with, But please people stop praising for overdue features.