Weekend Debate – First person shooters: love ‘em or hate ‘em?

FPS is not my favourite.Also I hate it in some way. they are ruining other games. I just remember when playing on dos,the games were surprisingly creative.Just look at resident evil 6 and Operation Raccoon city.What proof better that When capcom manager comes and tells that we want to sell like Call of duty series therefor we should make RE an easy action game .
A great title like Red Dead Redemption sells about it’s budget and a game like Call Of Duty released annually with little changes and sells like hell. come on! that’s not fair

Wait, didn’t you ask us this last year? The question sounds familiar…
Well anyway, after yrs of gaming I STILL get claustrophobic stuck in the boxed fist person view. It’s like being stuck rightsideup inside a very small wooden camera obscura… Maybe that is why CoD players are the way they sound like they are. They are not using headsets, that echoey sound is their voices all reverberating trammelled within wooden cameræ obscuræ. Or maybe they are all entrammelled within a single box. But seriously now, I do put up with this view for the Zombies. Its the only time I buy CoD every two years, all for the zombies. Sure they can birch-slarp you dead in two slaps, but I like co-op and working together as a team against an infinitimal onslaught of ganutting zombags. Perhaps a wooden camera obscura might come in handy as extra defense from being plucked as a zombies hors d’œvrale finger feed. YA WAH.

I have a love hate relationship with first person shooters, I generally love games with great stories and gameplay, so I love playing big epic games that go for 10 to 20 hours or longer and keeps you entertained the whole way, most first person shooters concentrate on multiplayer too much and the single player is just a short practice for the multiplayer.
So I really enjoy a first person shooter with a long story mode with a smaller multiplayer section which I can have a bit of fun playing after finishing the story

I love FPS on computer,and hate on playstation. Aiming with controller is very hard. Compared to pc, playing with controller is like walking with crutches instead walking freely.

An FPS is terrific, end of story. So are third person shooters. I mean they take such unexpected twists that you never know who’s around the corner. But it’s not all hit and run though! You have to be stealthy and tactical too! It’s so exhilarating creeping up to an enemy with baited breaths, bringing up your knife and SWISH your knife comes down ending the story for him! Speaking of shooters, shooters on the Vita are jaw-dropping! Brilliant graphics combined with tactics and BIG, EXPLOSIVE guns! First time I played, Uncharted on my PS VIta I seriously thought I had bought a mini PS3! And when I played Unit 13, oh, what can I say! I was totally blown away (by the gameplay AND the sounds of the engines in Operation Open Flame!) I can’t say how much I’ve been looking forward to COD: BLOPS Declassified! I can’t wait till the results come out! Fingers crossed!

I’m playing Black Ops 2 and really enjoying it. When you’ve been away from it for a while you forget how refreshing it is to play a game that’s just FUN! I play lots of other types of games – loving Cubixx at the moment and thought LA Noire was incredible. But after a busy week at work and sorting the kids out you can collapse exhausted into a chair and not be in the mood to think much. And that’s where COD works for me. When I’m done with it I’ll probably play something a bit more intelligent up to Christmas but for now, gimme the guns!

I think that a person should never hate/don’t like a kind of game but the game itself. Example: there are fps that i hate and there are other that i like. The first Bioshock for example was absolutely AWESOME (best fps ever?probably). Great atmosphere,storytelling,background and very immersive.And the First person choice on Bioshock for sure made the game even more immersive and if it was a third person shooter maybe it could feel a completely different game experience and less immersive that it was. Now try to imagine an Uncharted in FPS… i can’t see that. It’s the opposite of bioshock,probably if it was an fps it would seem the usual average fps. Fallout is another great example: How much of you played Fallout in Third person camera?… No one? sure,simply because it would feel completely different on that kind of game to play it in 3rd person, and in this case different means= worse experience.For the COD series itself, offline is very cinematic and scripted,the story is on an hollywood level and there are a lot of great moment in it, but on the gameplay side?your average FPS,nothing really new.

and than there are games like crysis and bulletstorm (thank you PLAYSTATION PLUS ) that tried to change a bit the formula, and it worked! with bulletstorm being very fun (rear entry or kebab anyone? XD) and crysis with is nanosuit that let you try amazing superpowers other than walk>see enemies>shoot them>repeat. By the way if you don’t like tha classic type of FPS, i suggest you to try the Playstation plus tnat at the moment give to you 2 great example of non standard FPS for a ridiculous price

I prefer strategy, rpgs, openworld etc. Games like Xcom, Mass Effect, Red Dead, GTA and Uncharted are more me. Adventures with strong stories and characters…plus I prefer 3rd person cover based shooting.

FPS games get a bit boring, although Far Cry 3 looks interesting.

PS+ needs to start offering a bigger variety of genres too.

Yes, I really enjoy the FPS genre, and have been doing so since the shareware copy of Wolfenstien 3D (Episode 1) was give to me oh so very long ago, and have enjoyed watching it evolve over the years from Doom to Half Life and beyond. The sub-genres it has generated like RPG-FPS Loot Fest Borderlands, and Survival Horror FPS Amnesia. It has continued help me hold the genre so very highly along with incredible AAA experiences like Bioshock.

But sometimes I just get bored.

Sure, I bought BLOPSII, but it still sits in my room sealed today, but with it being the 9th installment in the series, with updates here and there it doesn’t hold the same hype it had when I first played CoD2 or MW. BF3 looked great and I enjoyed playing the MP… but it felt a bit of a step back from BFBC2 IMO. Ignoring graphics, the generic FPS just doesn’t seem to evolve as much as it used to

Perhaps I’m getting too old – FPSs today are the multi-billion franchises, they just don’t seem to excite me as much. Let’s have another leap in gameplay mechanics: that next “Gravity Gun” or “You only have two weapons” moments that make the genre feel fresh again.

And bring on Bioshock Infinite, I want to have that FPS hype once more.

Hate em. While some do have some great atmosphere like COD and Killzone, I just find the first-person perspective distracting. I prefer to see my character. I find having a big gun on the screen pretty silly considering it’s trying to make you feel that you ARE the character on screen. Third-person shooters like SOCOM and third person games in general do a better job of it.

I love first person shooters.

The first person perspective immerses me in the game world like no other. When I experienced Fallout 3, I saw it all through my own eyes. I left Vault 101. I explored and scoured the wasteland for supplies. I survived its harsh post-apocalyptic environment. ‘I’ was the vault dweller.

In contrast, the third person perspective offers no such illusion. As Nathan Drake goes on one of his fantastic adventures in Uncharted, it is he who is searching for that next piece of illusive treasure – not me. As Isaac Clarke finds himself trapped on board the Ishimura in Dead Space, it is he who is in danger of being dismembered by the horrors that have infested the ship – not me.

In sum, I love the first person perspective and the potential that it provides for immersion in shooters.

I guess I’ve just never really gotten on with first person shooters.

I consider myself as a person who will try out near enough any game from any genre, and as such I keep coming back to FPSs (XIII, Call of Duty: MW2, Far Cry 2, Crysis…even Duke Nukem Forever). I have a few issues with them:

Firstly, I feel the lack of true peripheral vision on them impedes the ability to play truely in the first person perspective. There never seems to enough to notify the player of what is going on. It’s more difficult than it should to look around and assess what is around you quickly enough. For this reason, I often feel almost claustrophobic playing them, that the field of vision is less than what I should have.

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Then there is generally a very high emphasis on online play over story modes. I prefer to play single player campaigns, although not exclusively, and I find that first person shooters often are lacking on that front (although in cases when they’re not, I still end up hitting a skill barrier). Heading onto the online arena, I often encounter either players who are well beyond my ability (due to the fact that I’m not very good at FPSs in general), are very cheap or in some cases abusive (none of which are particularly exclusive to the genre, I just come across them more).

I don’t *hate* first person shooters, I just don’t get on with them. What I do hate is the implication from some people (we’ll call them “friends”) that there’s something wrong with me for not enjoying them. I think that I’ll stick to the third person, thank you very much.

Oh…and Portal…I love Portal…

I love FPS because me first game played was QUAKE 1 which I consider to be the father of all FPS

i was talking to a freind about this lastnite and i was telling him how i think shooters r dieing out due to there yearly games i think gow assencion will open ppls eyes to a new breed of multiplayer (fingers crossed) maby thats we need now allthough there r games like it on pc like warcraft ect but this tipe of genra hasent been done on ps3 realy looking forward till march 15 gow release hopfully we will see activion questioning wether to release a nother cod agian to many bugs for ps3 any way thank u for reading

also a problem with a certain shooter is u go inti quick match shoot the admin then u get kicked ?????????? ty battlefeild for making my gaming experince enjoyable

I used to be an adventurer like you and loved first person shooters… then I took and arrow to the knee and bought a copy of COD Black Ops Declassified.

I can’t love them, they make me physically sick withing minutes, as does all first person.
Not very thoughtful post, is it.

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The thing is about FPS is that IF you do hate them then you can’t get into them and you’ll always have that opinion no matter how good and how different the games are. Personally I don’t think you can compare games by the genre. How can a game like bioshock compare to black ops? Black ops to resistance? Resistance to killzone? One thing most FPS games have in common (apart from the obvious) is that they all have a good story. How genius is the story of bioshock? Another point is online play. It is dominated by FPS. It has taken online gaming into another world. its what separates this generation from last. Whatevers people opinion is of this genre, you can’t deny its everlasting impact on our hobby and culture.

P.S im a big fan of the genre and plowing my way through black ops 2

I have no sympathy for the genre, but I have to admit there are many high quality games that fall into it. I’m tired with this overused “american military saving the world” theme, that’s for shure. On the other hand, I had a great time playing Killzone and Borderlands series. The only reason I’m wary of the genre is it’s tendency to rely on tried and simple mechanics and generic characters.

I love shooters. I love almost every game genre. Why do I love shooters, because I grew up with them, they evolved from Wolfenstein 3D and Doom, even Timesplitters and Goldeneye. They’ve got better and more advanced now.

They have become a social activity which I enjoy when ever I want. Having those awesome matches with an amazing K/D ratio or just a laugh with friends & team mates.

I neither love or hate this type of game, i’d say i mildly enjoy it like a bit of gobby in the morning. The problem with alot of fps is they aren’t very engaging & thats perfect for a population of sheep wanting to feel like Rambo……
Very few developers get it bang on the money for me & they are usually the ones with a smaller advertising budget.
My personal opinion is COD is not a terrible excuse for a game its just mind numbing boring. Also it helps breed stupid people as does the armed forces xD

I am not really a big fan of shooters mainly because they don’t tend to appeal to me. Take a yearly release like Call of Duty as an example,why should I pay about 50 pounds for virtually a follow up to a previous game. Isn’t it basically the same thing but just with more stuff?

I personally like First person shooters because their fast paced and exciting and generally have a good online. Games like Call of duty, people complain about every year but they are missing the point why change something if their is nothing wrong. They provide a entertaining campaign and generally people through weeks into the multiplayer which is fantastic and they try to improve it every year.

HEADS UP store error (this is off topic but a heads up)

the playstation store is broke yet again no one cant go into it and it shows a fake mainteance message

1 tryed uninstall reinstall store – STILL NOT LOADING
2 tryed hard resetting ps3 – STILL STORE BROKE
3 tryed resetting the whole ps3 install – still store broke

if you getting problems let sony know this is not on and i just had about enough with the new ps store going wrong

I wrote this for Bitmob in 2010 (Hence the Uncharted 2 ref).

I’m bored with first person shooters, actually bored implies I was at one time a huge fan. Yes I liked Goldeneye on the 64 but I was more into the main game than multiplayer. I played and finished COD 4 I didn’t actually enjoy playing it. I liked the story and the cut scenes and the presentation but the running around with a gun shooting, whilst being hand held by my Sgt was just kind of okay. Compare this to Dead Space or No More Heroes, or Uncharted All 3rd person games which I absolutely loved.

What do I get from a third person game I don’t from a FPS, for a start there’s the field of vision, you can see more what’s going on around you in a 3PG, there’s also a separation from the character and which allows you to actually feel something for the character ,you can see them get hurt, run away etc. Not just slump to the floor with a mist of red on the screen and think “where the hell did that come from!” I guess with a 3PG it allows you to be someone else, with a personality of their own, it’s more escapist than Nathan whatever his name is in Resistance which you never see or hear.

http://bitmob.com/articles/third-or-first-person-cod4-meh

I would go for love them if that’s the only 2 choices but its not fitting answer on its own.
As a rule for me its not fps that for me make me love them or hate them its the content within take for example bioshock ,borderlands and call of duty.These three end up in this line of comments on relies on.All these games should be commended for its use of the game world and perspective to give its full story but in doing so feels like it narrows its self be to rigid explaining that even most fps aren’t always fps (driving , sticking to walls etc)
P.s. don’t like the modern warfare series

First person shooters are the reason I play games. Without them the world would be a cold, cruel and lonely place. That is all.

I dont really like first person shooters however i do quite like the first person view point.

games like oblivion and skyrim work really well with this veiwpoint and do provide a very nice experience of the game world.
Another game that again worked very well with this view point was mirrors edge(i know there were a few gun fights in this game but it was not a fps by any means)

id like it it developers tried something new and interesting with this viewpoint, something like a platformer with a brightly lit cartoony style world couple this with 3d tv tech and you could be on to a winner.

on the subject of the first person viewpoint End of Watch jake gyllenhaals manages to use it in the best way i have ever seen in film format

Well I played everything from Counterstrike to Call of Duty and it’s really depends of the game itself. Some shooter like Killzone or Half-life I love but Modern Warfare 3 was a bit disappointing. A lot of people aren’t fond of the Call of duty franchise but it doesn’t really matter if they aren’t the most beautiful or immersive games, there just fun. Killzone was great, especially the split-screen campaign with my brother. I just bought Medal of Honor Warfighter and it may be a bit glitchy I’m really enjoying it and the singleplayer was awesome. I would love the add Cod Declassified to my list, there are many bad reviews but it looks fun and that’s the only important thing to me. Some first person shooters are great and some aren’t but generally I love them.

Hello fellow bloggers
I am playing black ops 2 Fred it’s really good. But the best first person shotter I have ever played is killzone. The feeling I mean In killzone it’s like the zone of no return kill zone your about to die but yeah and the guns are so different it’s just the whole campaign experience being out there in the open also the hellgast has more advanced technology like those wing things that make the hellgast fly in the air but yeah for me it’s killzone and that’s why. Thanks LongLivePlay Sony Make.Believe

I really enjoy first person sbooters, mainly because I find it a good way to blow of some steam. COD is my favorite fps franchise,l because the multiplayer is competetif, fun and I can play it together with my brother in splitscreen. Also guns aren’t that common in belgium so it’s a more special experience because I don’t now how a real gun handels. I also enjoy others fps games like medal of honor, battefield, ressistance and counter strike. The differences in those games make the fps gerne diverse and I would love to have a fps game on my PS Vita. (I actually wrote this text on my vita).

For me its mostly a love/hate relationship, I have never been a big fan of FPS games, especially right now when I feel like the market is filled with similar looking modern day realistic shooters that get a new release every year… it just doesn’t feel very inspiring for me, and as a result I get turned off by the genre in general (even though I’m sure that some of the games must be good). But then once in a while I get surprised and fall in love with a FPS, this happened with both Killzone 3 and Resistance 3 where I ended up enjoying the games so much, that I even joined in on the multiplayer (something I rarely do with shooters), I guess they just stood out somehow, interesting story and unique gameplay. And I also love shooters like Bioshock and Borderlands, where they mix the traditional shooter gameplay with great writing and RPG elements, which added a lot to the genre for me. So even though I’m “normally” turned off by the Battlefields, Medal of Honours and CODs, I still find myself coming back to the genre :-O

When you decide to play a first-person-shooter you’re making a trade: your own worries for new, less consequential but substantially stressful ones.
While your body takes a seat, along with life’s troubles, your mind is having no break…

In command, you’re tasked with checking every corner and covering all angles as you anticipate enemy combatants at any moment and for possibly only a moment; a fire-fight that will challenge your ability to concentrate and react accordingly, under an intense surge of pressure that will determine whether you wait to try again in shame, or live on with pride for a little while longer.

Yes, an FPS will trouble you, it can frustrate and punish you but it will also provide regular opportunities to meet the challenge and get that satisfaction from successfully handling the situation and getting your reward, a numbing of that trigger-itch and a few moments to enjoy the adrenalin rush.

I haven’t played many FPS games recently due to personal life being a bit too stressful but with the Vita being so convenient for getting-in gaming time and now COD making its way to the platform I’m getting the flashbacks and cravings for some fps multiplayer again. Thank you for the competition!

I have to say im not big fan of cod because
I like to see full person that i am controling
All his movement and i think its harder to make
Games like that in cod just make pointing gun and
thats it

for me it all started with someone giving me 6 to 8 floppy disks for the pc when i was 9.on them was doom yea doom one was that many disks(good old days) and bang i was hooked for life running round on wolfenstein or quake level or life with my bro being a one man army saving the world.i think the fps series works so well because it taps in to are hunter instinct and tops it off with alot of compassion,being top dog on a multiplayer fps is a good feeling

Thats competition not compassion sorry spell checker has a mind of its own

Personally I love FPS (it’s what thumb sticks were made for), but I think FPS now come in many varieties it’s impossible not to enjoy atleast one. The term ‘First Person Shooter’ might be a generlisation but most of the game vary hugely. For example when you say FPS the first thing many people think off is ‘Call of duty’ series or ‘Battlefield’, understandably the main heavy hitters. But the incredible borderlands, Bioshock and even Deus ex are all to some degree FPS even if they do class their self as RPG’s. This shows how privileged we are, to have this genre branch out in so many different ways, so that their is FPS for all of us.

Hell even ‘Oddworld World. Strangers wrath HD’ can be categorised as a FPS and that game involves shooting furry critters about.

Its a hot topic this week i see. I dunno i’m still unsure of whether i love or hate them. Seems there is a lot of people out there who love to hate them but they seem to be the most successful genre in the industry at the moment and anything that gets the public spot light focused on the industry’s has got to be good right?. Back in the days of Quake,Doom and Unreal tournament it got public attention for all the wrong things like being too violent etc and its great to see how public perception has changed and is now taking note of the industry with a more thoughtful approach. Personally i like FPS and i like how they have evolved, what worries me is i might like them for the wrong reasons. I like them because they give me fast paced action without the need for complicated tutorials and having played alot i can recognise them and get into them quicker.

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what worries me though about FPS’s is why am i likeing theml. is it because they are good games or because of the reward systems that are implemented into them. Its a well know fact that receiving a reward releases serotonin into the brain and as a result players want more and more. This can make it addictive. This is why i’m not sure if i like FPS for the right reasons and worry that its way too easy for the reward system to become addictive. I know that it could be applied to any genre but FPS’s seem to be the ones that capture most peoples attentions. I generally like them though and there are some great FPS’s games out there compared to the old days and what they had to offer. But each year a COD game comes out i do admit i struggle with myself about taking the plunge and joining the masses because of the addictive nature of the games. There is one thing that turns me off about FPS’s though some times and that is the hostile nature of some players.
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The hostility of some players online is really not a good thing and i know there are systems in place to rectify that but that becomes quite a distraction when you consider how many people are playing and how much of a pain it is to report every single player that readily throws abuse and goes beyond friendly banter. Which drives me off into the single player story for which the most part are pretty good even if there are a little short. I can live with 5/10 hours of action gaming with out grief from some of the under age players on mp. (not just talking about COD here)

I think from the thoughts i’ve typed in the comments above my opinion falls on me having a love hate relationship with FPS’s. They do good things and are a lot of fun but also there are a lot of bad things and consequences that go with it.

p.s keeping my finger crossed for COD on the go, due for a win on weekend debate. lol

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To tell the truth – i do not like FPP in general. In my opinion immersion goes in the oposite direction than in games TPP. Yes you play from perspective of your eyes but it is difficult to take a quick look on the side in this games. TPP has got wider spectrum of vision field so it kind of simulates ability to glimpse to the side.

I’m not really a fan of FPS games at all, the last one I played was Modern Warfare 2 and I just lost interest in the genre after that.

The single-player campaigns tend to be quite short with too much focus on multiplayer these days. Great for those who like multiplayer but I just felt like I had had enough.

That’s what drew me to the RPG genre, 40+ hour single-player campaigns with great stories and great gameplay. I still play FPS games like Killzone & Resistance sometimes, but RPG is probably my favourite genre now.

I have a love hate relationship with the FPS genre. Call Of Duty 4 Modern Warfare for me stands as one the best game expirences i have had in this console generation. The game is a shining example of how to combine great storytelling with kick ass gameplay. Not to mention the game praktically defined and still defines FPS multiplayer to this day.

And here in lies the problem. The CoD formula has become so popular that the genre has almost come to a stand stil. There have never bin more shooters to choose from, but the vast majority are genneric and rather boring. And the storytelling has often bin reduced to one set peace explosion fest after another.

The player has no one and nothing to identify with, so the games become pointless exercises in boredom. Then again one in a while a game like Borderlands comes along and shows us that not every game needs to be call of duty. I hope that we will se more games that break the CoD mold.

I’d say I love them, but unfortunately that feeling is quickly turning to hate. In simple terms, the lack of originality in the genre is destroying it: Call of Duty pretty much got the formula for success right with their multiplayer, but that doesn’t mean that every other FPS should be ignored. So many good games (especially Gotham City Impostors) have potential, but the lack of players makes matchmaking a long and incredibly tedious process. This new COD game could be (and hopefully is) the saving grace for the genre on portables, with previous games either feeling difficult to use, with the PSP only having one thumbstick, or failing in the graphics department like the DS which, lets face it, cannot produce good graphics for love nor money. Overall then, the genre is currently in my good books but unless something changes, it is going to get old very quickly.

I’d say I love them, but unfortunately that feeling is quickly turning to hate. In simple terms, the lack of originality in the genre is destroying it: Call of Duty pretty much got the formula for success right with their multiplayer, but that doesn’t mean that every other FPS should be ignored. So many good games (especially Gotham City Impostors) have potential, but the lack of players makes matchmaking a long and incredibly tedious process.
This new COD game could be (and hopefully is) the saving grace for the genre on portables, with previous games either feeling difficult to use, with the PSP only having one thumbstick, or failing in the graphics department like the DS which, lets face it, cannot produce good graphics for love nor money. Overall then, the genre is currently in my good books but unless something changes, it is going to get old very quickly.

I both love and dislike shooters, it’s a mixture between the fact I hate 1st person shooters yet love 3rd person shooters. For starters I love how 3rd person shooters always offer something new in the gameplay, for example Dead Spaces space setting was a great new environment for a shooting game, I also enjoy uncharted as a 3rd person shooter.

As for 1st person shooters they always seem like each one tries to outdo the last and each year Activision and EA release one big 1st person shooter each, bigging each game up before E3 each year and then them both, or at least in my opinion, being disappointing, repetitive and similar as each others predecessor, this year for example Medal of Honour Warfighter was considered a failure by most reviewers this was down to the fact it tries to be Battlefield, and this is highly dissappointing.

To sum up my argument here, 3rd person shooters are great, always fun and always have something interesting to boast, but 1st person shooters always seem repetitive and samey, the last FPS I truly enjoyed was Killzone 3 which was released over a year and a half ago, however the last 3rd person shooter I enjoyed was Unit 13 for the vita which I still play a lot