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Upcoming Change To PlayStation 3 And PSP Game Content On PlayStation Network

We’d like to inform you of some upcoming changes to the usage policies for PlayStation Network game content.  As of November 18, 2011, the number of devices that can be activated on one PlayStation Network account for game content purchased from the PlayStation Store will be updated.

For game content purchased after November 18, 2011, a new policy will apply and the number of devices that can be activated will be as follows:

  • PS3: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PS3 systems.
  • PSP: Users will be able to play the game on up to 2 activated PSP systems.

Please note that this update will not affect game content purchased before November 18.  The PSP rights include PSP-1000/2000/3000 series as well as the PSPgo system.

PlayStation Network users are able to change the activation setting through each device, and Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.

For more details on how to activate/deactivate the devices, please read this guide or contact consumer services.

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REALLY?! No more game sharing?
Not fair…

Been waiting for this change for a looooong time! Amazed you let it carry on so long.

Ever more restrictive and unfair DRM isn’t going to win you any fans. I currently have two PS3s activated – one got the yellow light of death and is in a land fill now. There’s currently no way to deactivate it, so if my current system dies I’m out of luck.

You better hurry up with that DRM web page so we can jump through those needless, anti-consumer hoops if need be.

erm…………….I have 4 activated system already on my account, 2 YLOD systems and 2 Active(in the same household) where does that leave me?

ps3 systems*

European_Gamer 04 November, 2011 @ 10:37
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What is the main reasons for this change?

Will this pave way to allow multiple sign in users on one system to allow you to get trophies when playing with friends/co-op? It kinda sucks that you can’t do that.

These are great news!No more gamesharing!Plus that i can now deactivate
my profile from my dead Playstation 3.
Great work Sony :D
I cant wait for MY PSVITA!!!(lol off the topic)

It sucks that we’re losing control over things we buy in the future just because people game share.

That said, I do appreciate the PC activation controls. With any DRM system, there should always be a counterbalancing mechanism so that legitimate users aren’t screwed. On XBL you have the system license transfer, on iTunes you can reset your activations, and it’s good that a similar thing will soon be offered on PS3.

Clearly says in the post that there will be a website where you can DE ACTIVATE devices. No one needs more than 2 active systems at once.

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I honestly hope that you have a system in place to identify the consoles that regularly access the content when it comes to those who have more than 2 consoles activated. I had enough trouble getting Sony to deactivate 1 for me due to YLOD so hopefully this wont lead to a lot of problems for users with accounts on newer machines or broken ones.

The deactivation via PC should be useful as long as those issues are dealt with prior to this change.

Personally I’ve had 2 YLOD machines which would take up those 2 activations, understandable move due to the whole sharing issue but I really do hope it has been thought through to the fullest extent.

if this means PSN titles will be cheaper, that’s good news, I’m tired of seeing full games cost £10-£20 more on PSN than as a disc version bought in a shop,

shadow-king, since it says it only affects purchases after 18/11 you should be OK since you won’t be installing games on your YLOD systems,

So if my PS3 stops working & I have over 100 Digital titles & I purchase another PS3, then I can only download them once more?

YOU BETTER REDUCE THE PRICE OF DIGITAL TITLES THEN!

I’m not risking paying over £10 for a title, that if 2 PS3s break, then I lose the game!

“Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.”

So we will be able to remotely deactivate a console? If that’s true, awesome. I activated a console before the limitations were fully known to us and I have been looking to deactivate it for close to 3 years. I have no way of actually accessing the original device.

That really is not fair! so if you own more than 2 you have got to pay for another, come on PS we all came back to you after the hacking even tho most of us were considering moving to XBLive. Pffft

“if this means PSN titles will be cheaper, that’s good news, I’m tired of seeing full games cost £10-£20 more on PSN than as a disc version bought in a shop,”

That’s an incredibly optimistic view… and incredibly unlikely given the current trend of PSN pricing.

Touch wood, over the 4 years i’m only on my 2nd PS3. My first broke, due to it being the terrible 60gb version & had the dreaded YLOD!

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Is that 2 PS3s AND 2 PSPs (eg. in the case of minis?). I have one of each currently, but had been thinking of getting a second PS3 (for a different room in the house), and a Vita later. Can I deactivate individual games, so that I can use them on a different system, or do I have to deactivate the whole system and everything on it?

If I buy PS1 titles, minis or content in general that’ll play on both PSP and PS3, can I play that on two PSP systems AND two PS3 systems, or only two in a combination of the two types?

Brilliant, glad we will soon be able to deactivate devices from the web. Had a bad time a few years ago when I kept having refurb PS3s dying on me, meaning I now have a ton of activated PS3s I cannot deactivate.

I think activated on 2 PS3s is still plenty fair. I doubt many people will want to game share beyond that. It’s usually like, one in your room and the family PS3. Fair enough.

Does anybody know what the policy is with XBOX?

How many times can you download a title from the XBOX store, once purchased?

Can the limit be adjusted in certain cases? For example, I have 3 PS3s that I actively use in my house, and my brother has another one I could use if I really wanted to.

Also, guess this puts paid to my plans of buying a second UMD-based PSP ಠ_ಠ If I’m not going to be able to play my content on it, no point for me.

Oh, and when the Vita comes out will that count as a PSP for the purposes of activating PSP games?

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I honestly was lost as to WHY these changes would be made until I read ‘game sharing’ in the comments. While I was super pissed at companies like Capcom releasing single player games with always online DRM to combat it, I could just ignore those games. I have 3 devices I use in my day to day gaming life that would share PSN downloads, so limiting me to 2 is a real kick in the nuts.

I’ll certainly be looking to other services (Steam .etc) for my digital games from here on until Sony decides they don’t have to treat their honest consumers like evil software pirates.

Bummer I have 3 PS3, one at home, one at my parents and one at my Gfs :(

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Just a few questions.
Can I have 2 PS3 systems and 2 PSP’s activated at the same time? Or is it 1 PS3 and 1 PSP system?
Also what about PSVita, do we get 2 activations on those as well?

Hopefully this means that there will be no more crippled DRM games like Capcom’s Bionic Commando Rearmed. As long as the website goes up so I can unactivate my PS3 should I have to replace it, no issues with this.

people are missing the point here in relation to YLOD and broken machines. the restriction to new devices only comes into affect after the mentioned date for games purchased, therefor you wont be able to purchase games on your ylod machine, and so, ylod will not affect the number of downloads you have.

I have two ps3’s in my home..both used regularly. Buying games for use on just these two is fine.

But I also have my account on a family members ps3 and another on my m8’s. Whilst not being able to download games on those is fine, will I still be able to sign in and play other games from those machines or will I need to remove my account from those?

Hang on a min!

So I can still re-download my content, as long as I deactivate my old account, if my current one dies?

I can download the 5 usage policy, but only on up to 2 activated systems?

So as long as I stick to 1 or 2 then i’m okay?

What i’m trying to say is, if I own my 3rd PS3 due to 2 previous ones breaking & I deactivate 1 so I only have 2 activated, then i’m fine to re-download everything on my new PS3?

Hope it made sense? LOL ;)

#1: Not fair? I’d say it’s not fair to developers and publishers that people share games. If you wanna play it, at least support those that are making the game.

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Well done, full personal support to Sony

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Just to make things clear…

You can download the title as many times as you wish, however, the whole idea behind the system was to allow people to play games around at a friends place or on another console. However, you were to deactivate the system when finished.

While the game download would remain there, the console wouldn’t have permission to play it as the system wasn’t activated.

All this means, if you have more than 2 consoles, that you will have to deactivate one to play on another. It takes no more than 10 seconds to do it so it’s not much of an issue. A minor hindrance at worst.

GREEDY, Why have you become GREEDY!

If this system means we can deactivate YLoD consoles, that’s one good thing.

But does anyone remember the days when you’d get a new game and take it round a friend’s house to play with them? I miss those days. This is quite a tight move by Sony. As in, unreasonably tight-fisted. Not as in “good”.

BAD PR MOVE SONY. Who’s in charge there these days?

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As long as we can deactivate systems, I welcome this change :D. I currently use two PS3s so I’m as happy as larry ^_^

…Unless it’s leisure suite larry… can’t imagine he’s too happy as of late :3

I think this is a change for the better. It will stop people from abusing the system but still accommodate people with two systems. I was afraid you would limit it to one system only so Thank you Sony!

@Catkiller1

Yes that’s exactly what they wrote. When you deactivate it on one of your systems that YLOD you can then redownload & play it on a new system.

The content will only work on TWO systems at once, that doesn’t mean it has to be the SAME two systems forever (if they break that is)

If your games werent to expensive then maybe people wouldn’t game share. I mean i was looking at some games on playstation store that were like £25 or £30. And yet when i go to game or graingergames they are like £10 or £15. Also i think when things like add on content comes out and say five people who gameshare would chip in together to get them then at least sony is getting their money whereas if it were one person it may be too much and they will not get it. I thought Sony does their job for peoples entertainment and not for their wallet.

“where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.” I am glad about that. My 1st PS3 got YLOD :( So hopefully i can deactivate it? Erm i am not sure tho if that is right :D
+ i always found it strange you can give someone else your PSN games? Don’t SONY lose money doing that in the 1st place?

very good… if i can then deactivate my account from my dead console.

MissSouthampton 04 November, 2011 @ 10:59
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I am pretty stuffed. I have 3 dead systems with no deactivation possible – ya know back then when they didn’t tell you and when the fatties died on ya lol

@ gypsiee

Thanks for your reply ;)

I understand now & I need to have some more caffeine!

Too many late nights on BF3 & Uncharted 3 has frazzled my brain slightly! lol

Hang on! I have 4 PS3 (and 3 PSP) which I use (My main, one in spare room and my kids plus one at my mums for when I stay there). Now if I buy a disc I can use it on any of these but from now on I can only use what I buy off PSN on 2 of these? So I’ve paid sony over £600 (plus one which I won from sony) but I can’t use my content on all of them? What kind of way is this to treat customers? I spend loads on PSN and now I’m gonna have to decide if its value for money if I can’t have something on main,son’s and at least one other. I’ve paid for the software so why are you restricting how I use it? The prices won’t come down so this just sounds like you’re penalising me because of my loyalty to Sony’s console. If I can’t fully utilise all consoles are Sony going to give me some kind of reimbursement? Unlikely.
Along with the Payday fiasco Sony are really trying my patience now

perhaps it would be worth giving PS+ users 5 activated PS3s for those who need that many. just an idea.

Christ people, read the posts, before whining about Sony being greedy.

THERE WILL BE A WEBPAGE, WHERE YOU CAN DEACTIVATE DEVICES, EG. IF YOUR PS3 GETS A YLOD OR IF YOU DOWNLOAD ONE OF YOUR GAMES ON A FRIENDS PC.

This change is for the better, with the new system.
Gamesharing has NEVER been about you abusing the system to share games with your friends, it so you can download games to your own consoles and now it becomes easier with online management.

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Well this will obviously be annoying to the people who share their games with friends, but for unlucky people like me (read people who aren’t careful enough with their hardware) The new deactivation service will be great for getting rid of all those old licences for consoles you don’t even own any more. By the way, don’t share your digital games. Buy It multiple times to give Sony more money so they can make even more great games and especially put more retail releases on the PlayStation store. Preferably at lower prices that what their charging now.

MissSouthampton 04 November, 2011 @ 11:06
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Hang on…Does that mean the current system I use I won’t be able to buy any new games on? It would be the 4th activated? Or does it just count for the games you downloaded. This has always confusalled me.

@ Avatar111

Awesome idea!!!

from bad to worse sony… you can’t “change the rules while the championship is goign on”… totally unfair… and i’am waiting for my payday voucher…

About time Sony took these measures to counteract game-sharing. Well done guys!

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@39 “I thought Sony does their job for peoples entertainment and not for their wallet.”

Why on Earth would you ever think that about a big electronics corporation.

This seems a fair move, no real reason to hate it at the moment, unless you’re a filthy game-sharer. We’ll see how they handle it.

I just realized the best thing about this. Hopefully no more private messages from greedy game-sharer’s, who can’t understand some people don’t feel like giving away their PSN account info to strangers.

Now if Sony would add the possibility to do gifts and do sales bundles, like Steam, we are getting close to something really great-

QUESTION

Do minis and PS1 games get 4 activations across, 2 PS3’s and 2 PSP’s and in the future across 2 Vita’s ???

Please answer.

the funny thing is that on the us blog nothing is mentioned… is it only for european users? I know that the Europeans are “League 2 citizens” in sony eyes but… this is too much…

This doesnt really bother me at all, however, im sure it will to some people.

I just have 1 question:

You say 2x PSP and 2x PS3

Can both apply to the same item?
I.E. PS One games. I have a PSP and a PS3, and have been thinging of getting a PS3 for my holiday house.

In short, Can a game go on 2x PS3’s and 1xPSP?

Deactivating systems via WWW is really awesome news!

““Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.””

Who thought it was a good idea to bring the change in at the point where you only ‘plan’ to have the website? The website and the change should be done at the same time, surely?

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You guys don’t understand you can deactivate dead systems now?

Silver & White PS3s November 15th eh! ;)

Also, now that i’ve had some caffeine & understood the statement, I think it’s great!

This needed to happen to stop all those gamesharing stealing peasants!

God news. Just saw a site the other day where people game share their games so they just pay 1/5 of the price. Sucks for them!!!

MissSouthampton 04 November, 2011 @ 11:24
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@nightmare966 noooo lol. How?

I’m in the same boat as a lot of people here, multiple PS3’s, some faulty some good, PSP’s and I had planned on getting a Vita.

I wont bother.

So, now I have to retire my PSP1000 for good? I can’t use PSN content on it even if want to?

Apple actively encourages me to upgrade my hardware every year, and they don’t punish me for it. Why are you doing the opposite Sony?

I sold my last ps3 without deactivating the account, what can I do can I still dezctivate that.

Why don’t people read the post :( You will be able to de-activate old PS3s from the new site when it launches. Any games you have bought before the change can still be used on up to 5 systems. New purchases can only be used on 2. Simple

People are using still-activated YLOD machines as an excuse (or are not reading the details before commenting), the new policy isn’t being applied retrospectively, it only covers purchases made from 18 Nov 2011 onwards. If your old PS3 is really dead then it won’t be coming back from the grave to download your future purchases, will it? Sarcasm aside, I DO feel for those with dead machines; I was lucky enough to reverse my YLOD using a hairdryer so I had chance to deactivate it (and then sell it to Gamestation).

Glad that Sony will be launching a better web administration interface, hopefully they’ll also add in functionality to browse and purchase items from the Store which is a handy facility the Xbox crowd have. However they should plan it carefully, I’d rather they kept on top of security than give the hackers another route into the PSN.

MissSouthampton 04 November, 2011 @ 11:28
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Ha ha ha! Because I am at work and read the first bit and panic lol –

“Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website where users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.”

Sweet been waiting for this for 4 years! Thanks :)

I dont honestly see why I should buy Sonys next console. When they keep removing everything that is good with it.

[Deleted] :\ ar least lower the prices cause it’s freaking high. i have 2 other ps3 systems. so if i got a ps vita and i want to download a game that support the ps vita then i can’t ? you want me to buy the games all over again ? :\ i don’t want to deactivate anything because me and my brothers use those. i don’t wanna buy a game three times just for my brothers to play it too :\ i’m not rich :\ i guess i’m not going to buy the ps vita. oh well.

@ Griffisu. Have you only got 1 PSP? If so this won’t affect you

@ CMJE96. When the website is up you’ll be able to deactivate your old PS3. Until then you can do nothing about it.

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I just don’t get this Sony’s policy of downgrading. First they dropped the PS2 emulation, then Other OS support, then free on-line gaming and now this. They are trying real hard to make PS3 less appealing!

How about sometimes adding something?

I’ve got no issues with this change as long as the new account management website is up and running prior to the 18th. That way I can finally deactivate my original 60 gig PS3 that Sony took off me when it suffered Blu-Ray drive failure and the 60 gig refurb they gave me that suffered YLoD after about 14 months.

winge, winge, winge, if you don’t actually own 3 active ps3’s I don’t see what the issue is

They did add something, they added a webpage where you can control your activations.
Why did they lower the limit from 5 to 2, because greedy game-sharer’s was abusing the system.

Unless you are a greedy game-sharer or owns three PS3’s ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uh1jB4hVJRg ), this is only a good change with the new site to control activations.

nice point.. every update from sony seems to remove features… I’m tired of this… we have waited years for the cross chat, you gave us hope and than you said that the free ram is not enough for that… the next update will remove the possibility to view blu-ray movies?

As long as I can still share my DLCs between local accounts, and as long as I can activate/deactivate my systems via a web account manager, I’m ok with that. I’m not much into game-sharing.

@Kermit1970 I have two PSPs.

The issue is that software is being “activated” on devices, when it never shouldn’t. I shouldn’t have worry about how many activations I can use. Software should be locked to accounts and accounts should be limited to a number of devices, like Apple does. I shouldn’t have to worry about which software I activated on which device, if I can login on a given device, my software should just “work” on it.

@74 They haven’t removed anything, stop the useless whining. Your old titles still have five activations, they have simply adjusted the number of activations on new games, to avoid people abusing it, because some has been abusing it a lot.

They are even going to add a system where you can control your activations online, which is good for those with dead PS3’s.

they have removed 3 sistems activation so… YES thay remove something… an by the way no news on us Sony blog, i started to think that this is only for european users… i repeat, from bad to worse…

@76 And what about people who has more profiles on one console, like families, should content only be locked to the profile which bought it? Or what if you buy a game from another region and has to download DLC from another region, then you can’t use your DLC with your primary profile.
It’s better with a limit and then the content can be used freely on the activated systems.

And why a limit? Because or else people will abuse it and not pay for their games.

Oh well…
Things happens.

Anyway, I hope prices will fall faster than angels in Axe’s adds, or we will see a new movie spin off:

“Day the PSN stopped”.

I said it.

I’m not sharing paid nor activated content with any friends. Only with girlfriend and friends on MY systems. I bought 2 ps3, 1 psp, and planned to buy a vita, and now you’re telling me I WILL NEED TO BUY 2 TIMES or moremy games and content, even if i’m the unique user, playing on 1 system at a time? You’re kidding right? What kind of backstab is that? The more we support your company, the more you want money from us? What kind of logic is that? At least, give us 3 activations, don’t act like [Deleted].

I agree with Griffisu, this is just gonna make things messy. Why not just save this stuff for the next console.
The new system is gonna have to allow you to manage activations for each and every item now – which is stupid.

@78 But what the hell do you need five activations for? Do you own FIVE PS3’s and FIVE PSP’s? I’m guessing you are breaking PSN terms of agreement by doing gamesharing and that’s why you are whining so much. Then admit you are gamesharing and I can understand your whining.

If you don’t gameshare and don’t own more then two PS3’s (which pretty much nobody does), this is only an advantage.

I own 4 PS3 and 3 PSP consoles and soon to be a vita and I can only use content I buy on 2 of each system. Well looks like I won’t be buying any new content. Also will the vita count as a PSP activation or will we get 2 for that as well?

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Not happy, not happy at all. This is not right, if you have more than 2 ps3’s in your house showing loyalty to playstation you are going to start making me pay for the same things twice? I have playstation 3 systems in my house, 3 psps, and 2 vitas when they come out. I am not happy that i will have to pay twice for the dlc/ content on all my ps3s. Is there no way you can get more if you provide proof of more than 2 systems? and that they are your accounts on ps3?

greedy gamers ? lol the only one who’s greedy are the companies who’s selling their degital games for more than $40. DLC at day 1 of the game release.online pass. that’s greed :\

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Im all for this but why not roll it out when you have the website up and running allowing users to deactivate their (in my case, dead) PS3’s. Not point rolling something out that is only half functional.

MaikelSteneker 04 November, 2011 @ 12:02
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This sucks. One of the things I like about PSN is that I don’t have to worry about activations. At the moment, I own a PSP and a PS3. Without a doubt, I will get a Vita in the future, and I imagine I’ll later be upgrading to a new model. But if I do that, I have to deactivate one of my handhelds already.

That shouldn’t be neccessary. Game-sharing may not be fair to developers, but adding restrictions like this is not fair to legitimate customers.

I’ll seriously have to reconsider buying PSN games in the future.

gd i hate ppl asking me for th map packs….. James does this mean i can deactivate my aaccount from my YLOD 60gig ps3…??? plz

I don’t get those people saying they’ve got activations on YLOD PS3 they can’t deactivate – I was burgled and had PS3 and PSP stolen – a quick call to PS Customer Services and they were able to reset ALL activations for my PS account, and then all I had to do was activate my replacements.

That said, a website would be easier, so kudos for that.

A little sad to see this change come in, but it’s those pirates *cough* I mean game-sharers that have spoiled it for everyone else.

To the few who are asking why this hasn’t been mentioned on the US blog, it is probably because this has only just been announced, and most of the US is still in bed, or just starting their day’s work.

I anticipate once Sony US start posting updates for 4th Nov, that this will be one of them.

If anyone is interested, Fear Effect, Fear Effect 2 & Urban Chaos PS1 Classics are incoming: http://goo.gl/LM7J2

Oh for F sake. Quit whining you gamesharing morons. It’s incredibly childish. Preventing gamesharing is a GOOD thing, anyone thinking otherwise should be sued for practicing piracy.

And why is it so hard to actually READ the whole article? It clearly says they now have a website where you can de-activate your system.

But it seems to be the case nowadays that teenagers complain about everything. GROW UP!

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Wait does this mean that the 5 activated PS3 systems is now finished, if that is then this sucks

@88 – The difference is, you were burgled. I expect they asked you for a crime reference number? Thus you had evidence of the loss of units.

They refused to deactivate my YLOD unit unless I sent it to them to be replaced (for a small cost of £140). The fact that I chose to actually buy a slim instead was not good enough – Sony wanted me to return the faulty unit, and told me that as I still had activations left I should just use them.

Now, for the past few months, I have intended to purchase another unit for my home, but have no activations left due to multiple locked-out units (from YLOD or returns to stores due to faults). Again, Sony don’t want to know. At least now I will have control over my activations.

“users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.”

What the post doesn’t say is what the particular devices are.

I already sold an old PS3 but forgot to deactivate my account. Will I be able to deactivate it using the new system?

@92 – You can still activate games already purchased before Nov 18th on 5 systems. Only games bought after that date will be limited to 2 units.

If you have more than 2 units, then simply deactivate one and activate another when you want to switch your gaming to the bedroom/lounge/attic/parents house/whatever. It is simple – you can still have the account set up on multiple consoles…it will just need to activate (about 5 seconds to do).

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This is awkward for me on PS3: Two active PS3’s, though the slim has had a new hard drive and the old hard drive uses an activation.

It’s really annoying on PSP though I only have three systems activated (my two eldest sons’ PSP-3000s and my own PSPgo), but I’m told I’m using all five. I can account for one (which is used by a PSP that was stolen), but can’t for the life of me figure out the last.

1. These changes are too restrictive.
2. The activation management site has long since been needed.

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Web deactiviation is very important for the many of us who have had a PS3 die and have it eating into their activations allowance. It’d also be good if there was a temporary activation type system. I’m thinking of (admittedly quite rare) cases where a person has a game on two PS3’s at home and also wants to play the game they bought round a friend’s house. With disks we can just take the disc over, but with downloads we need to use account sharing.

I’ll add that if making changes, the ablity to copy downloads onto USB would be very welcome. I have a friend with very fast broadband who could download something like the DC Universe very quickly, whereas its ludicrous size makes it impractical for me to give the game a go. If the installer could be copied to USB but only installed after activating it via PSN, you could facilitate title distribution.

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Bit concerning that the US blog has not covered this. Im all for the PAL region to get something first, but I thought it might be a bit more exciting than this.

@97 – Activations are to the unit, not the hard-drive. You shouldn’t have a unit locked out because of a new hard-drive.

Does this affect how many times you can swap accounts on the PSP?

At last someone has addressed the problem of not being able to de-register a console after a YLOD incident! I have had 2…

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okay i’m cool with this but can i have the pc tools first before you make this policy

If its easier to de-activate consoles you no longer own now then this is a good thing.

I’ve had a PS3 stolen in the past and would love to be able to deactivate it some how.

To all people with questions. Read again, slowly and with understanding. Everything is clear and up there.

I not surprise by this of course it‘s to stop ppl from gamesharing, i welcome this no bigger i had a problem with more PSP then ps3 but i phone and they reset my PSP and PS3 to 0.

so kudos sony & i welcome the PC account management :)

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While I understand that there is a desire from Sony to clamp down on game sharing- the simple and fundamental truth of Digital Downloading is this; we are paying for the content that we use. I wouldn’t take issue if, for example, the price of PSN content as opposed to physical media was LESS, but it is infact MORE expensive to buy digitally, and now you’re telling us we can only activate a piece of content twice before it’s life expires?!!

Explain to all of us, who stuck with you through the Hacking Scandal, how it is at all acceptable to pay £50 for a copy of Battlefield 2 you can only activate twice in the lifetime of your PSN account, wheras if you buy the PHYSICAL media at less than £40, you have it for an unlimited space of time?

No? I didn’t think you could justify it. Well, I’ll tell you where I stand on this- I will NOT be purchasing any PSN games after November 18th. Game addons, maybe if they aren’t overtly expensive, but games themselves with 2 activations only are too mu...

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While I understand that there is a desire from Sony to clamp down on game sharing- the simple and fundamental truth of Digital Downloading is this; we are paying for the content that we use. I wouldn’t take issue if, for example, the price of PSN content as opposed to physical media was LESS, but it is infact MORE expensive to buy digitally, and now you’re telling us we can only activate a piece of content twice before it’s life expires?!!

Explain to all of us, who stuck with you through the Hacking Scandal, how it is at all acceptable to pay £50 for a copy of Battlefield 2 you can only activate twice in the lifetime of your PSN account, wheras if you buy the PHYSICAL media at less than £40, you have it for an unlimited space of time?

No? I didn’t think you could justify it. Well, I’ll tell you where I stand on this- I will NOT be purchasing any PSN games after November 18th. Game addons, maybe if they aren’t overtly expensive, but games themselves with 2 activations only are too much of a risk of my very limited money. Shocking decision.

@93 I don’t remember giving having to give a crime reference number. However, from your experience it appears that PS Customer Services have the ability to wipe activations for an account but simply are refusing to do so.
I’d agree that that isn’t acceptable – maybe if everyone who has experienced that officially complains to Sony (e.g. not customer services but directly to Playstation Europe’s CEO) that policy would be changed for the better for everyone!

(maybe a process that can be performed via the PS3/PSP/Media Go where you can clear all activations for an account as long as you also change your login password too, so no one can re-authorise their system if they happen to have your PSN details, but you can authorise those in your possession still)

Just an idea Sony…

finally

I have 3 ps3’s.

As I understand I will have to mess about deactivating one of them to get the third one to play, I’m annoyed because I wish sony would add some great stuff feature wise not take it away all the time.

I think they need someone else to do their PR for them I mean they announce losses then they come back with this?

I certainly won’t be rushing into the next gen so quickly and just buying a ps4 for the sake of it.

@106 – Your analogy with Battlefield is flawed. If you have the physical disc, you can only use that in 1 machine at a time. With download you can use it in 2 at a time. If you want to use it on another machine, you deactivate the account and then activate on the new machine. Thus you still have the game available forever.

By saying “2 activations”, Sony don’t mean that once you play it on 2 consoles, that’s it…the game can’t be used again. You just deactivate whichever unit you are not using (via the proposed online tool if you do not have access to the console at the time), and activate the other unit.

I am not a game sharer. If Sony wish to check they will find I pay for Plus and spend probably over £10 a week on store content with well over 1200 items on my download list. I have over 150 retail games on my shelf and use a second PS3 in bedroom (for when my other half watches soaps), my son has third (age restriction and no access to my password) and fourth which I won through Sony that I have at my mums for when me,my son or my brother are there. I had original PSP, upgraded (?) to PSPgo and then won third (with PS3 in WKC compo on Official PS website) so this will almost negate half my equipment. They all work and are all active. And I’m still waiting for some news regarding Payday codes >:(

@106 I suppose the reverse of that is you paying £40 quid for a physical copy of the game, but if a game-sharer distributes their copy, it’s means potentially that that £50 download is effectively costing each person on the PSN version £10

Even if it’s gameshared between 2 people – that’s effectively £25 for the game someone who bought the physical copy for £40-£50.

…and it’s not 2 activations for the lifetime – its two CONCURRENT activations at any one time – you can have 10 PS3s with it loaded on each, but only a maximum of 2 of those PS3s will be able to be activated at any one time and have permission to actually play the content.
(i.e. all that is required is for deactivation of an existing system for you to activate another one – and hopefully the ‘website’, should it ever appear, will make this process easier if you aren’t near the PS3 you want to deactivate)

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@106 I suppose the reverse of that is you paying £40 quid for a physical copy of the game, but if a game-sharer distributes their copy, it’s means potentially that that £50 download is effectively costing each person on the PSN version £10

Even if it’s gameshared between 2 people – that’s effectively £25 for the game someone who bought the physical copy for £40-£50.

…and it’s not 2 activations for the lifetime – its two CONCURRENT activations at any one time – you can have 10 PS3s with it loaded on each, but only a maximum of 2 of those PS3s will be able to be activated at any one time and have permission to actually play the content.
(i.e. all that is required is for deactivation of an existing system for you to activate another one – and hopefully the ‘website’, should it ever appear, will make this process easier if you aren’t near the PS3 you want to deactivate)

I can see both sides, but personally I’m happy to see an end to game-sharing between users, and hope that Sony provide the tools to make it easy for non-game-sharers to administrate which equipment is authorised at any one time so they aren’t really effected by this new limit.

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“Sony Computer Entertainment plans to provide a new PlayStation Network account management website”

So SONY is PLANNING this. What makes me think that it won’t be ready by November 18th?

And second – how do you de-activate a console you don’t have anymore?

English_Princess 04 November, 2011 @ 12:45
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I understand Sony wanting to stop game sharing, but for people like me who actually do have more than 2 PS3′ (I have 3) this is going to be a pain. Having to remember to activate or deactivate is going to get old pretty fast.

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Theres a way to get round this: Follow steps:

1) Download your psn purchase
2) Deactivate your account
3) Activate on Friends/Family PS3
4) Download on there PS3
5) Deactivate Account on there PS3
6) They then have the psn purchase on there PS3
7) Re-Activate on your PS3.

JOB DONE :D ENJOY!!!!!!!!!!!!!

ADD ME ON PSN FOR FUTURE GUIDES: RSDHALIWAL

@110 I’d like to see enhancements to the download list so that you can may sort by name, date, filter by type, move to a page, etc, as you’ll know if you have loads of entries in your download list, getting to anything ‘deep down’ takes an unecessarily amount of time.

Similarly, if Sony were able to implement the ability to do activations per item (rather than account) that would be great too (i.e. you can ensure certain games are not autorised on the ‘kids PS3’ but are autorised on your own, although I suppose the parental controls already provide the ability to limit what is played on the ‘kids PS3’)

i have also had a few ps3 through selling them or getting new one as one broke(its off for repair now).

i have 1 ps3 activation left and no psp (cant use my current psp with my own account as i never de activated any of my old ones)
as long as the web site lets me re-set to zero then im happy.

im guessing its something we can only do once every 12months like ms do with 360’s drm activation

Some of you people in the comments are blind , Gamesharing offers great possibilities an example was the Uncharted 3 multiplayer beta ..i was allowed to game share with 4 other people around the world who was not fortune to have the beta open in there country…this is a sad day

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So if I kick one device out of my list of registered devices through the website, how will this affect the device itself? How can the kicked device know that it is no longer activated and thus shouldn’t start certain games/content? Especially if the console stays offline after the initial activation.

Just wondering how this whole activation/deactivation system actually works.

@RSDHALIWAL

no because as soon as you deactivate an account the game wont load, it gives you an error message and game does not load, i know this as i did it on my console that is away for repair (in case of a replacement) and after the account it deactivated games will not work.

maybe you should lay off the guides until you actually know they work.
(also dont try to encourage gamesharing it part of the reason things cost so much)

I am happy that I can finally remove my account from previous systems that have died. :D

@117 That’s an interesting point actually.
Should also be noted though that some PSN downloads were limited to 2 activations anyway (GT5 Prologue, I’m looking at you…), which ‘suggests’ that the default number of activations per item can be adjusted by Sony anyhow, so maybe if there is content that they don’t mind being spread this way, then maybge they will have more activations?

…mind you, you’re braver than me trusting other people with your PSN account details…

This move was long overdue!

Dear SONY, i’m ok with this. i just wanted to add one important thing: i think PSN prices for full titles are way too high. you can’t sell battlefield 3 on PSN for 69 euro, when you can find the disc for less in the stores. digital-only sells also help developers with the used game sales problem, so don’t underestimate them. see steam as a working platform: no used sales, day one availability, many offers and so on. we have very big hard disks in our ps3 now, so having the game full installed on it lead to better loading times, no bluray drive tear (i use it alot for movies) and no need to swap game discs, which is a nice plus.

Hilarious. It could be a bit awkward for families with PSPs though, because there’s a difference between doing the pirate thing on the interwebs and using the same software with a family unit. perhaps include some kind of co-habiting agreement that has to be made on the one PS3?

@118 Good point – maybe that’s why up to this point Sony have usually insisted that PS3s/PSPs were directly activated/de-activated directly from the relevant unit?
If this can then be done remotely, I’d “guess” that any unit that has been de-activated but hasn’t connected to PSN won’t know it’s no longer authorised, but it would be nice for clarification on how this would work.

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I have 3 systems in my house, 1 is a 60GB YLoD’d awaiting repair, hopefully.
You’re on a path of self destruction Sony, this activation stuff should be invisible to the user I should not have to deactivate my system to go play on my system in my office.
5 was a perfectly fine limit, keep it at 5 and give us the web portal to manage systems.

ما هو السبب الرئيسي ؟
مع احترامي الشديد ، هذا تصرف احمق !

طيب والالعاب راح تبقى على نفس السعر ، او تصبح رخيصة. ؟

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If I can deactivate on will. Great news!

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I think it means activated accounts with the content i.e. if you download on another console. Then deactivate it, if you are online it will lock that game out entirely and there is probably a delay time limit like 14 days before it has to go online to check its still activated account or it will be deactivated.

Least that’s what I think it should be. Gives you flexibility but doesn’t let people exploit it.

other news are out on the us blog, but this new thing is not mentioned… Europe is screwed again…

DragonspiritPT 04 November, 2011 @ 13:13
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Alright, then just let us manage our activated PS3 systems.
In fact there should be a online platform that us, PSN users, could manage our accounts.

nice new system FIFA 12 = 9.99 DOLAR ….. BF3 = 19.99 DOLAR

NEW COST OR NEVER BUY

good luck with the PS4 Sony you greedy Bs

stupid gameshop cost bluray game 59.00 DOLAR
NETWORK DİJİTAL GAME 60.00 DOLAR

WHY ???
NO BLURAY
NO BOX

WHY EXPENSİVE

BATTLEFİELD 9.99 DOLAR
FİFA 12 9.99 DOLAR

users will be able to deactivate particular devices attached to their PlayStation Network account via their PC.
YES YES YES YES!!! BUT PLEASEEEEEEEE Don’t require the old password i have lost that and the email linked to my 50gb ps3 which got YLOD if this ps3 breaks i will cry :(

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You guys know Digital Content prices are put by the publishers (EA, Ubisoft, SCEX, Activision, Namco Bandai, etc.) right?

It is on the US blog page too now, so all the “EU is doomed” naysayers can calm down (or just find something else to whine about)

Ok, so you say: Please note that this update will not affect game content purchased before November.
I have 4 ps3, home, gf, brother and workplace, all are for me, i have content on all of them on one account.
How will this work? i will have all the content downloaded befor november on 4 ps3? If i desable one i will lose the games? We want official answers. Thank you.

@138 – If you deactivate one, the game won’t play. Once you re-activate it again then it will play. You will only have to deactivate should you want to play games bought after Nov 18th on different consoles. Until then, keep all units activated.

I would imagine that the ‘2 unit’ games will work on the basis of the first 2 units they are downloaded on are the default activations – so will have to deactivate one of them before downloading on one of your other units.

xxSamuraiGirlxx 04 November, 2011 @ 13:43
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after they bought in online passes this doesn’t surprise me.

what would be the point in trying to stop people buying used games so they can get a cut of the profits, if people can just gameshare the pass eh?

2 is too restrictive imo…should be 3.

and ia with what someone else said on here…lately all sony do is take away features from the ps3.

when will you add something that will benefit all?

@ meako1973 thank, i think that would be the case, but we need an official answer right?

kicking their loyal customers while they’re down (yes, talkin’ ’bout my Payday voucher) and then robbin us of benefits we’ve always had while we’re too busy screamin’ over it, smart move [Deleted] (yes, [Deleted] is now a swear word in my eyes, if your cheap, secretive & treat the people closest to you as shit you’re nuthin but a sack of Sony).

I’ve enjoyed bein able to buy a game, run over to my friends/brothers house and install the game there & play with them afterwards, kinda word by word what head of SCEA said in a post about the 5-system activation scheme, and that way be able to enjoy the game together with my local friends. Been very thankful for that scheme as local multiplayer ain’t featured in that many games anymore.

Now gimme my Payday code!!!

xx_Tooms109_xx 04 November, 2011 @ 13:55
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@ RSDHALIWAL

1) Download your psn purchase
2) Deactivate your account
3) Activate on Friends/Family PS3
4) Download on there PS3
5) Deactivate Account on there PS3
6) They then have the psn purchase on there PS3
7) Re-Activate on your PS3.
———————————————————–

lol.

Except,when you de-activate on your friends ps3,they wont be able to use the content.

xx_Tooms109_xx 04 November, 2011 @ 13:58
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Also – Any time scale on this supposed webstite?

Because i’m very wary of buying anything now,without a way of de activating a YLOD system.

Knowing SCEE – This could be months.

I’ve three systems,but deactivating isn’t a chore so i’m ok with that.I do think a web based activate/deactivate should of been theee day one.
It’s a shame that a good thing was exploited,because it was a hell of a thing having 5.

It’s a shame it has gone down to two devices, but I totally understand why you had to do this.

Thanks for letting us know up front.

This new management site will be very useful.

“where users will be able to deactivate particular devices”

Thank god for that ive already had the yellow light of death 2 times at least i can deactivate those devices

I love that we will be able to deactivate ps3 associated to our accounts thru the pc. Some time ago, i used to do gamesharing with 2 guys, and they both sold their ps3 and didn’t deactivated my account from their ps3 before selling them, and somehow one of the crooks who purchased the ps3 from them, got my password and pass it over to his crook friends and left me no more activations available to pass it on to my friends. Now I will be able to get rid of them forever so they no longer can use the games I paid for! wherever you are crooks, justice is coming! Thx Sony!

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@Gordon Thornton or any one with the balls to do their job!!!
good idea we all know money is lost from game sharing but to also hit the pre-owned market with online pass was wrong as:
(1)people are skint and buy old games when a title has already made huge profits
(2)ps advertise free online gaming, you have broken T&C
what i want is an answer and not to be ignored as usual by blog team or sony as to why sony have not yet given out a simple security software to download that would render a console useless if the user were to hack their system for personal software enabling cheat codes that ruin online gameplay? (considering this breaks your T&C, dont you think its about time you got your act together?!!)

very very good news,specially the account management website where we can deactivate our consoles,no more be at the mercy of Sony’s horrible staff who ask’s you to send them proof that your ylod Ps3 is dead in order for them to deactivate it for you.

one headache gone :)

What a load of [Deleted]. Sony I’m very disappointed in you for doing something so annoying.

So for a loyal Sony consumer what are you going to do for me!!!

I currently have 3 Sony PS3’s active in my household, mine, my wife’s, and my daughters. I have all our ID’s on all of them so we can play where ever whenever.

I also have I guess 3 active systems somewhere else 1st 60GB unit returned for death, couldn’t deactivate. 2nd refurb returned 60GB unit died, didn’t deactivate and returned to sony. Bought 40GB system, it died and sold it to someone dead on craigslist, couldn’t deactivate it. So now last night when I try and download DLC I paid for on my newest 160GB unit I can’t cause I have 5 systems active. [Deleted]!

I never share games; I even purchase multiple copies of some games we all play so we can play together online. But now I wonder if I need to convert to a Xbox family… Hell NO! But maybe PC gaming instead.

Very disappointed long time Sony consumer.

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@ judgehusler

Also it would be nice if a member of the SONY team, would actually update us loyal PLAY promotion purchasers, with our PAYDAY code!

What exactly is going on??

No response in 2 days, after the game was already delayed in the first place!

Furious isn’t the word! :(

CoolRichy008UK 04 November, 2011 @ 14:40
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well i got 1 ps3 2 usernames so that dont bother me and as for all u gamesharers ( YOU ARE (DELITED) i told ya id stop u gamesharers hahah

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@ immortal-wolf-

You’ve got way too much money to put a bid in for this: http://goo.gl/JLRws

I mean, couldn’t you have waited? I guess not eh? ;)

JOKING! :)

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@ Polynski

What do you think of this new statement then?

I’m interested, considering you asked me to gameshare?

164

As long it lowers the overpriced games on PSN: then Go!

-If we’ll still have same overpriced games then meh, at least good I can deactivate my YLOD PS3.

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@catkiller1 hey buddy, yes furious would be such an understatement. soz about other night on BF3 invite, was already in group! that game rage is addictive tho, never have i played a game were i actually take my time and sneak around corners! the more i play the better it becomes, a bargain at £20

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@catkiller1 WOW i just seen that bid for MW3 on ebay, what a idiot!!! you got to be stupid and ignorant to be spending so much money on a game, most probably a footballer!!!!

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@ judgehusler

No worries! :)

RAGE was a great experiece & I can’t wait for the sequel! Looking Forward to DOOM 4 when it’s announced too!

I guess the bid will probably be retracted, or the idiot will probably go through with it. Won’t receive the game until release day, as it will take 4 days! LOL

this is so frustating…
i currently have 2 ps3 activated…
but i also happen to have 3 ps3 that died, and i couldnt deactivate them…
i also sent emails to sony regarding that and the response i got is try again!!!

“That really is not fair! so if you own more than 2 you have got to pay for another, come on PS we all came back to you after the hacking even tho most of us were considering moving to XBLive. Pffft”

LOL! Do you play on more than 1 PS3 at the same time? Or based on the new rules, do you play on more than 2 PS3s at the same time? If not then what’s the problem? Just deactivate the one that is not using the content at the moment and activate that 3rd PS3. All very easy via the new PSN account management website.

Some of the other commentators here need to get a grip.

I don’t understand how this doesn’t affect old games.
I thought you would activate the account on a system, then you can play your games on it, then you deactivate it and get your activation back?
But how can you activate a single game?

“Explain to all of us, who stuck with you through the Hacking Scandal, how it is at all acceptable to pay £50 for a copy of Battlefield 2 you can only activate twice in the lifetime of your PSN account, wheras if you buy the PHYSICAL media at less than £40, you have it for an unlimited space of time?”

You have completely misunderstood the statement. This is equivalent to using iTunes content i.e. users can keep 2 devices active for use of the content. It has NOTHING to do with activating the product i.e. game or PSN content twise.

brucewillis215 04 November, 2011 @ 15:25
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wow sony you need too block these little kids from commenting they really don’T understand anything

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Two PS3s and looking to get a Vita, can I have my PSN active on all 3?

If not then I may have to reconsider whether or not I want the Vita if I can never use its PSN functions.

how in gods name do we deactivate broken psp?

@164: The post indicates 2 PS3s and 2 PSPs so I expect that 2 Vitas at the same time too.

@165: The post indicates a new account management website will allow deactivation but for the moment since your device is broken you need to contact customer services.

@SCEE: Please add the account management to the Playstation App for Android and iPhone!

The web page where you can manage all activated ps3 in your account is great but REDUCING the limit of game sharing from 5 to 2… is total BS! Its like removing another great feature. Is this how SONY TREAT their loyal fans? Removing/reducing console features as they please…

Another negative blog post and yet again the replies are non existant. Sony’s attitude towards its consumers seems to get worse and worse.
If Capcom could use restrictive DRM for Final Fight (can not be played on alternate system for 24hrs after previous play) then why can’t the same be applied to the digital releases for high value digital titles?
I assume this would also apply to dlc so am I correct in thinking I can’t even put map packs on all four of my consoles to play online whenever I choose even if main game is played from disc?
And we still don’t have our Payday codes or a reason why not!!!

Emperor_Mordred 04 November, 2011 @ 16:06
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What about minis that i can play both ps3 and PSP?
Can it be activated on 2 PS3’s and 2 PSP’s?

What happens if i’d buy a PS Vita and there will be games that work on both PS3 and PSV (and maybe PSP)?

I don’t do gamesharing so it’s not going to bother me much, but still it’s not fun news to hear.

So when are we gonna be able to deac those ps3’s that died ans/or got rid of that are still activated via pc? but I have noticed that my old ps3′ that I removed from my accounts page ages ago have reappeared again. If I can deac them I will be ok.

“I assume this would also apply to dlc so am I correct in thinking I can’t even put map packs on all four of my consoles to play online whenever I choose even if main game is played from disc?”

This post does not relate to the number of times the DLC can be downloaded. You can download the DLC to all the machines but you just can’t play on all 4 machines at the same time; you’re limited to playing on 2 machines at the same time.

So now we can finally manage our system activations by ourselves. About time! But better late than never. :)

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*sigh* more an more Sony just seems to be pushing customers away… I dont see how people seem to think that Game SHARING is to be used only with yourself…how can you share something with yourself?? I have 4 friends all of us with each others accounts active so that when one of us downloads something multilayer we can all share an play together!! aaand now of cource Sony must ruin that aswell, gaming is just becoming more and more expensive now, we are expected to pay £40 for the game, and then an extra £20-£30 on DLC!! At least with game sharing it made it a bit more manageable with a few of us all putting money together

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“Well this will obviously be annoying to the people who share their games with friends”

Yeah, well tough tata’s. They shouldn’t have been abusing the system like that in the first place, so you can blame THEM for this move.

So funny seeing people accusing Sony of being ‘tight’ with this move, when the very cause of it is people being ‘tight’ themselves and not buying their own games.

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ohhh well you want to lose money fine have it your way you stupid idiots. lets see how psn does without it

I could understand the change if it was for the PS4… even for the announced (but not out yet) PS VITA… but you can’t change the rules every moment you want Sony, You can’t!!

I HAVE 4 PS3’S AND HAVE PAID FOR THEM ALL PLUS OVER 500 DOWNLOAD CONTENT AND A PS+ MEMBER! LET ME KEEP ALL MY SYSTEMS ACTIVE! I HAVE PROOF OF PURCHASE ON EVERYTHING. NOT FAIR THAT YOU ARE GOIN TO HURT YOUR HIGH PAYING CUSTOMERS LIKE ME! MAYBE I SHOULD CANCELL MY PS+ AND NEVER BUY ANYTHING FROM THE STORE AGAIN! STOP BEING GREEDY SONY!

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oh and its not to obvious that you sold 500 plus of bf3 because of sharers dont worry games like that will soon be ignored and im thinking that this is simply EA going “UNCLE SONY UNCLE SONY HE DIDN’T PAY FOR THAT IN FULL” “HE DIDN’T??? DONT WORRY LIL EA IM ABOUT TO TAKE OF MY BELT”

You LOVE removing features don’t you?? Times like this I wish I had my 3.55 CFW still.

Take the pi** you do Sony.

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i don’t see a reason why this should be done. there was no problems with sharing. yes they lose a bit of money from dlc BUT more people would buy the ps3 FOR this reason.

i have a bunch of friends who came up with a purchase rotation, so to speak, where one buys the dlc one week and the others would share. the next week is rotated and another purchases the dlc to share.

i just really don’t see why they would want to give more people a better reason to buy an xbox. it’s just stupid.

Just means I’ll be buying less stuff I guess.

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I have 3 PS3’s. One in the living room, One in the bedroom, one in the dining room/2nd living room and also own a PSP. That as I understand would be 4 activations. So if I’m to understand this correctly, people like myself with a large family and brand loyalty are to be penalized for no reason other than wanting to stick with the one brand.

What bunch of morons thought this would be a good idea? I may as well ditch one of the PS3’s and get a cheap blu-ray player and a 360 instead. As for the Vita you can blow it out your ass.

Capt_PillowCase 04 November, 2011 @ 17:38
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this is straight up bu11$h1t, i have two brothers, we share everything we buy on the store, what do we do now?!? we can’t give to one and not the other! stick your new policies up your @r$e Sony. you better be lowering the price of content, especially the digital copies of full games, or is that still ‘up to the developers’?!

I really can’t see what the problem is, to that american didn’t you read old games that you pay for & downloaded can still download back 5 times.

so that tells me ppl can still gameshare with old content i only have 1 console with 3 accouts but it won‘t effect me.

this active to 2 is tie to your account & console meaning muti accouts on 1 console shouldn’t be effected. :)

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Could you be more precise about the date?
After 18th November but onwhat time? GTM+0?