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PS4 Pro: The ultimate FAQ (update)

Everything you need to know about the super-charged PS4 Pro.

PlayStation is introducing a new choice for console gamers with PS4 Pro, a powerful addition to the PS4 family. It’s designed to offer heightened gaming experiences, whether via your existing HDTV or a new 4K TV.

With its increased performance over the standard PS4, PS4 Pro represents a first for PlayStation – and in many ways, for console gaming. We’re excited by this vision, but we know many of you will have questions. That’s why we’ve built our Ultimate FAQ below.

This FAQ will serve as a living document, and we’ll continue to add new questions, details, and specifics leading up to the November 10 launch throughout the SIEE regions. If you have questions that aren’t addressed, leave them in the comments below and we’ll add ’em to the list.

In the meantime: it’s time to get to know PS4 Pro!

PS4 Pro: Basic Questions

Q: What is PS4 Pro?
PS4 Pro is a high-end version of PS4 that is capable of outputting 4K graphics, HDR support, smoother and more stable framerates and 4K video streaming. Upon its launch, PS4 Pro will make supported PS4 games look better and run more smoothly, while giving developers an upgraded toolset to create even richer, more detailed game worlds. How these powerful new tools are used is up to individual developers and the experience they are creating. You may have seen some of these examples during PlayStation Meeting 2016.

It’s important to note that PS4 Pro is not another generation of console. It won’t make your current PS4 games obsolete, and it won’t split the PS4 player base. PS4 Pro is very much a part of the PS4 family.

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Q: When will PS4 Pro be available, where, and for how much?
PS4 Pro will launch throughout Europe and other SIEE regions on November 10 for a suggested retail price of €399/£349.

Q: Will PS4 Pro have separate or exclusive games?
There will not be any PS4 Pro-exclusive games. Because PS4 Pro and the standard PS4 are members of the same family, both systems will be fully compatible with all past, present, and future PS4 titles, including PlayStation VR. All PS4 games are PS4 Pro games, and vice-versa.

Following PS4 Pro’s launch on 10 November, virtually all new PS4 game releases moving forward will be able to take advantage of PS4 Pro capabilities on day one, or in some cases shortly after launch via a downloadable update. Some titles previously released will be updated to take advantage of PS4 Pro features, including Uncharted 4: A Thief’s End, The Last of Us Remastered, Infamous Second Son, Shadow of Mordor, Deus Ex: Mankind Divided, and more.

Q: Will I need to pay to update my existing PS4 game with new PS4 Pro features?
While nothing specifically prevents publishers and developers from this, we don’t anticipate it at this time. Software updates enabling PS4 Pro features on any existing first-party title (such as inFamous First Light or Uncharted 4) will be free.

Q: Will all PS4 games be compatible with PS4 Pro?
Yes, all existing PS4 games are fully compatible with PS4 Pro. Developers are able to add PS4 Pro enhancements to previously released PS4 games via a downloadable update if they choose to.

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Q: Will SIE continue to sell and support the standard PS4?
Yes. PS4 Pro is an evolution of the PS4 generation platform, which will continue to include the standard PS4 system. PS4 Pro was designed for gamers who want to be at the forefront of gaming innovation. Whether you decide to purchase the new system or continue playing on the standard PS4 system, you’ll enjoy the same games that make PlayStation the best place to play.

Q: Will PS4 Pro require a 4K TV?
No. PS4 Pro can display much higher resolutions than the standard PS4 when using a 4K TV. But if you own an HDTV (720p, 1080i, 1080p), PS4 Pro can still improve your gaming experience.

Q: What benefits does PS4 Pro provide when played on a non-4K HDTV?
PS4 Pro offers benefits even if you play on a HDTV that isn’t 4K. Depending on how the developer chooses to use the increased processing power, games with PS4 Pro support are able to render higher or more consistent framerates, increased environmental and character model detail, improved overall visual quality, and other related visual enhancements. For a look at how games are using the power of PS4 Pro, watch some of the first game footage on our YouTube page.

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Additionally, PS4 games that render below native 1080p (maximum quality for HD TVs) on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV.

See below for a chart detailing how PS4 Pro will display based on different TV types.

4K content2K or less than 1080p content
2K TVOptimized to 1080pIf less than 1080p,
upscale to 1080p
4K TVIf 4K (2160p), display as isUpscale to 4K (2160p)
4K/HDR TVIf 4K (2160p), display as is
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR
Upscale to 4K (2160p)
If content is HDR supported, display in HDR

Q: What resolutions does PS4 Pro support?
On 4K TVs, games are capable of running at up to 4K (3840 x 2160 pixels, also known as “2160p”) resolution. On HDTVs, games will run at 1080p.

Q: Will PS4 Pro be compatible with my existing PS4 downloaded games, saved data, and PlayStation Network Friend lists?
Yes. PS4 Pro exists in the same digital ecosystem as the standard PS4 in all regards; two PS4 console systems, one PlayStation Network, one PS4 community. This means you can start playing a game on your PS4 Pro, upload the saved data to online storage using PS Plus (sold separately), and pick up your progress on a standard PS4 in another room. It also means that all content and saved data that you already own on PS4 are fully compatible with PS4 Pro on day one.

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Q: What if I already own a standard PS4? Is there an easy way to transfer my games, saved data, and Share captured content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro?
Yes. You will be able to copy your games, saved data, captured videos and screenshots, system settings, and other content from a standard PS4 to PS4 Pro using a standard Ethernet cable. This process will also work from standard PS4 to standard PS4, PS4 Pro to standard PS4, and PS4 Pro to PS4 Pro provided that both units have system software update 4.00 or higher installed, and the same PSN account is signed into both systems.

Alternatively, you can log-into PSN with your PS4 Pro, access your games and content library, and re-download your previously purchased games and content. Of course, your saved data in online storage will transfer as well.

Q: Will the PS4 Pro system introduce any improvements to DUALSHOCK 4?
The latest version of DUALSHOCK 4 will be included with PS4 Pro, as well as the new slimmer standard PS4. But it does not introduce any significant new functionality. The new DUALSHOCK 4 allows the light from the light bar to emit on the touch pad, making a new luminous line that illuminates in the same colour as that of the light bar. It also supports USB communication in addition to Bluetooth communication. Existing DUALSHOCK 4 controllers going back to the launch of PS4 are fully supported on PS4 Pro; the updated DUALSHOCK 4 will, in turn, be fully supported by every PS4 model.

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PS4 Pro: Technical Specifications

Q: How does PS4 Pro compare to the standard PS4?
PS4 Pro is significantly more powerful than the standard PS4 model. PS4 Pro’s advanced graphics processor unit incorporates many features from AMD’s latest “Polaris” architecture, as well as some fully custom hardware innovations, and is considerably more powerful than the GPU included in the standard PS4.

All in all, this increase in processing power enables developers to tap into far more demanding visual features for PS4 Pro owners, including smoother or more stable framerates, support for 4K rendering, advanced graphics features, and more.

Q: What video output settings does PS4 Pro support?
At launch, PS4 Pro supports all of the HD video output settings found on the standard PS4. Notably, PS4 Pro introduces 4K output, with settings for both 2160p YUV420 and 2160p RGB (recommended if your TV supports it) at up to 60 frames per second when using a supported 4K TV and Premium High Speed HDMI Cable.

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Q: Does PS4 Pro support High Dynamic Range (HDR)?
Yes, PS4 Pro is fully compatible with the HDR10 specification at launch. HDR10 is a widely supported HDR format embraced by major entertainment companies.

Q: What is HDR?
High Dynamic Range, or HDR, is an emerging display standard that allows for massively increased colour depth and greater contrast compared to Standard Dynamic Range, the decades-old specification currently employed by traditional HDTVs. In general, HDR-enabled content played on an HDR-compatible TV produces a noticeably fuller, richer image, that’s closer to what the eye naturally sees. That means much deeper black levels that retain finer details; brighter, more dazzling highlights; and a much wider colour spectrum than is possible on older HDTV technology.

It’s actually impossible to demonstrate the true benefits of HDR technology here because you need an HDR-enabled screen and content to experience it. You can, however, watch this video from Sony that shows some simulated before-and-after scenes.

Q: Will PS4 Pro include support for Dolby Vision HDR?
There are currently no plans to support Dolby Vision.

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Q: Does PS4 Pro require any specialized equipment?
Only if you want to experience 4K and HDR. Otherwise, no. Like the standard PS4, PS4 Pro fully supports existing HD TVs (720p / 1080i / 1080p). PS4 Pro can also output a 4K signal on supported 4K TVs when using a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable (one will be included with PS4 Pro). To enjoy HDR features, you’ll need an HDTV that’s compatible with the HDR10 format, and HDR10-enabled games or content.

Q: Outside of higher gaming performance, 4K TV features, and support for 4K video streaming, are there any other benefits to PS4 Pro?
Yes. PS4 Pro will come standard with a 1TB HDD, faster Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac), and a third USB 3.1 Gen.1 port on the rear of the unit. PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can also benefit PlayStation VR games, enhance streaming features such as Share Play and Remote Play, and enable higher resolution output for media captured using the Share button.

In most other ways, PS4 Pro will be very similar to the standard PS4. This includes the user interface and functionality.

Q: Why do I need a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable for using PS4 Pro on my 4K TV?
For maximum quality, you’ll need a PS4 Pro system, a 4K TV with a Premium HDMI input port (often marked in blue), and a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable. A Premium High Speed HDMI Cable is included with PS4 Pro, but those who need to purchase a longer cable should remember to get one that meets the Premium HDMI spec.

The newer Premium HDMI format can display a 4K signal at up to 60 frames per second (60Hz). When using older Premium High Speed HDMI Cables, users may experience issues such as flickering TV screens or images being displayed incorrectly.

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Q: Is there anything else I need to know about PS4 Pro support on my 4K TV?
Given that 4K display standards and HDR features are still cutting edge, we recommend that you carefully consult your 4K TV’s manual and other reference materials to fully understand its capabilities.

Q: Will PS4 Pro support PlayStation VR?
PS4 Pro will fully support PlayStation VR just like the standard PS4. It’s important to note that PlayStation VR’s integrated display tops out at 1920 x 1080; it does not support 4K output. Also, the PS VR headset does not support HDR features.

That said, PS4 Pro’s upgraded processing power will give VR developers the ability to enhance their experiences with higher quality graphics, smoother or more stable framerates, and visual improvements in supported games. Developers can also choose to add PS4 Pro features to PS VR games post launch via a downloadable update.

Q: Which PS VR games will support PS4 Pro features?
As neither PS VR nor PS4 Pro has launched at the time of publication, we’ll wait until closer to PS4 Pro’s launch to begin confirming these titles.

4K Entertainment

Q: Does PS4 Pro support Ultra 4K Blu-ray Discs?
No, PS4 Pro’s internal Blu-ray drive does not support the new Ultra 4K Blu-ray Disc format. It supports the same Blu-ray Disc specs as the standard PS4. The Blu-ray Disc Player application, however, will support high-quality upscaling of DVD and Blu-ray Disc content.

Q: What 4K entertainment options will PS4 Pro support?
4K streaming apps for Netflix and YouTube are in development. Though 4K streaming is still in its early days, other services are likely to offer 4K video content in the future as well.

Q: Will there be any 4K PlayStation Store movies or TV shows?
There are no plans for this at PS4 Pro’s launch, but the PlayStation Network team is looking into it.

Other Questions

Q: How large is PS4 Pro, physically?
PS4 Pro is slightly larger than the original PS4 model introduced in 2013, and will measure approximately 295×55×327 mm (width × height × length).

Q: Will PS4 Pro owners have a performance advantage in online games when competing against standard PS4 players?
Generally, no. Playtesting and balancing is up to each game developer, and while it’s true that PS4 Pro’s more powerful hardware can drive smoother or more stable frame rates in supported titles, developers have many tools and processes they can use to prevent imbalances.

Q: Will there be any changes to Remote Play or Share Play with PS4 Pro?
Yes, PS4 Pro’s increased processing power can offer significant streaming benefits if the internet bandwidth is fast enough. Remote Play users on PC, Mac, or Xperia will be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p. Share Play users on a standard PS4 or PS4 Pro will also be able to stream gameplay from a PS4 Pro system at up to 1080p.

With both Remote Play and Share Play, PS4 Pro’s adaptive streaming technology will attempt to optimize streaming quality to make the most of available internet bandwidth. For the best experience, we recommend a 15Mbps or higher connection and using a wired Ethernet connection (not Wi-Fi) whenever possible.

Q: Will the Share button capture higher quality game content with PS4 Pro games?
When playing a game with PS4 Pro features, using DUALSHOCK 4’s Share button will generate higher resolution gameplay clips and screenshots compared to the standard PS4. Specifics will vary by game, but some games will support full 1080p video capture, and screenshots at up to 3840 x 2160 (4K) pixels.

Q: Will I be able to Broadcast my gameplay at higher settings?
Yes. At launch, you will be able to broadcast a YouTube stream at as high as 1080p and 60 frames per second.

Q: Are Sony’s new 4K TVs a good fit for PS4 Pro?
While we won’t provide a specific recommendation for PS4 Pro at this time, Sony has a long history of designing TVs with advanced technology, and that reputation has extended to the 4K TV realm.

Q: What size 4K TV should I get?
We can’t give an official recommendation on TV size due to variables in room size, seating distance, and media types. 4K games and movies can feature up to four times the total resolution of a 1080p signal, so to take full advantage of 4K’s greatly increased fidelity, you’ll want a 4K TV that’s big enough to show it off comfortably.

If you’re in the market for a new 4K TV for PS4 Pro, we strongly recommend selecting a model with HDR10 compatibility, which will enable increased image vividness and contrast in HDR10-enabled games and movies.

Q: If I’m using PS4 Pro on a 4K TV, and I’m playing a PS4 game without PS4 Pro features. Will it still output in 4K?
Yes, older PS4 games without dedicated PS4 Pro features will output at 4K when played on PS4 Pro and a supported 4K TV using a Premium High Speed HDMI Cable. You will not, however, see any visual benefits without support for PS4 Pro features.

Q: What type of buttons are on the front of PS4 Pro? (Updated)
The buttons are mechanical.

Q: Is there anything else I should know if I own both PS VR and PS4 Pro, and a 4K TV? (Updated)
If you’re playing a normal, non-VR game on your PS4 Pro, PS VR’s Processor Unit will output a 4K signal to a 4K TV — but in the YUV420 format only. The Processor Unit does not support HDR pass-through, so you will need to plug your PS4 Pro directly into your TV (bypassing the Processor Unit) to view HDR content[YT2] .

Q: Can I use my PS4 Pro as a “second” primary account? (Updated)
No, you can only choose one PS4 device to be your primary account.

Q: Can I install a new hard drive in my PS4 Pro? (Updated)
Yes. As with both models of the standard PS4, you can replace PS4 Pro’s stock 1TB, 5400RPM hard drive relatively quickly and easily using just a Phillips head screwdriver. You will need to select a 2.5” (laptop PC sized) hard drive that is no more than 9.5mm thick.

Q: Are there any other changes to PS4 Pro’s hard drive interface? (Updated)
Yes, PS4 Pro supports the faster SATA-III specification.

Q: Do 4K TVs suffer from increased input lag? (Updated)
Not necessarily, but the phenomenon known as “input latency” or “input lag” may be an important consideration if you are considering buying a new TV to be used with gaming. The amount of latency differs by TV.
Many TVs feature a “Game Mode” or the like in order to reduce this latency as much as possible, but this performance can vary (i.e. by deactivating special features like HDR). If possible, try to test out a new TV before buying it, connecting your PS4 or PS4 Pro to get a sense of its overall gaming performance. In-depth professional reviews or user reviews can also be valuable.

Q: Can I use an external HDD with PS4 Pro? (Updated)
As with the standard PS4, PS4 Pro does not support external HDDs for storing game files, but you can use it for storing a system backup, media storage, or save files.

Q: Does PS4 Pro support rendering in full, native 4K? (Updated)
Yes. While PS4 Pro supports outputting a native 4K signal, many developers are leveraging powerful rendering technologies including a process called “checkerboard rendering” to best balance the heightened clarity of a native 4K signal with other rich graphical features and a smooth performance profile.

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Vincent_Deseers 08 September, 2016 @ 16:06
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What type of HDD does the PS4 Pro support?

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Would be great if someone from Sony/PlayStation could confirm details and whether or not we are able to swap out the drive. I’m hoping that they support external drives for game installs too. I am having as there’s a ssusb port on the back.

PT_Darkangel_PT 09 September, 2016 @ 13:50
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I want to know what size of hd and what sata it uses.
That is relevant to me…

It’s the same HDD that that normal PS4 supports.

The Pro has a 1TB 2.5 Toshiba 5400rp drive built in and can be swapped out just like the normal PS4 drive.

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Hm..no UHD Player? Bye Sony…hello MS :)

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Goodbye! Enjoy Uncharted, Killzone, Infamous, Horizon: Zero Dawn, The Last Of Us, Days Gone and Driveclub on your new system!

Cheers RogueTracer. We will enjoy those games – on the standard PS4’s we already have.

I’ll play the exclusives on my current PS4 and the multi platform ones in my future Scorpio, where I will also watch my UHD blu-rays.

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So basically, still a 30fps machine. I’m not buying it, then.

Exactly.

All I heard during the entire conference was “blah blah blah resolution blah blah blah resolution blah blah blah”, I could care less about the 4k and I doubt with all my heart that this thing has been that highly requested as they seem to say, on other hand I’m pretty certain that gamers have been asking for sony to deliver the 1080p60fps promise they made when the vanilla was announced. So no 1080p60fps on vanilla and apparently not on the “pro”. Calling this a “pro” is laughable at the very least, joke’s on you sony.

Wrong! It’s a 1080p 60fps machine, Infinite Warfare played at 4K (not native) 60fps, and you people say it can’t?!

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Well dont get a Scorpio either. Its confirmed it is the exactly the same as the PRO just that it has a useless 4K bluray Player. It will still only play games at 30fps or 60fps depending on the original game on the SLIM. Also that the PS4pro costs the same as the Xbone Slim, people would get the Ps4pro over the Slim and as the Console is out in November and is $100+ cheaper then the Scorpio. People would buy the cheaper one so they have enough to buy a 4K TV to play it in the first place. Also no body i heard of buys 4K movies they stream them. So really lack of a 4K bluray player doesnt change anything and is useless.

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Will the Pro support HDD’s larger than 2TB?

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I should hope so. The 2TB drive for my original PS4 has been an essential purchase, but is now almost full.

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I wish they did but there is no mention of a 3.5 HHD bay. I am worried because I’d like to upgrade but I am not going to give up my 6TB PS4 which I achieved by using a NYKO databank

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Well I buy a (NYKO DATA BANK)for my ps4 with a 4tB drive and it works great!!!

So it enhances remoteplay but only for PC, Mac or Xperia. Any enhancement for Vita?

…I think they just completely forgot this thing ever existed…

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Poor vita, i really liked it, but it seems like it was born dead :/

Malicious_Gam3r 08 September, 2016 @ 16:51
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How could they enhance remote play for vita? It only has a 544p Screen.

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So…. the PS4 Pro and the PS4 are fully compatible??

Can you please clarify? I can’t really tell by the 100 questions that address this in the FAQ…

;-P

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The games will be

My only serious question is: will it ever be released with a design closer to the original PS4? Because, well, no offence, but this thing is atrociously ugly….

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i know right?. Its kind of not that appealing, and i will def wait for a special edition that makes it a little more, stylish.

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Agreed, it kind of looks like it’s from plastic on pictures. Still didn’t incorporate any good ‘footing’ either (the PS signs in this case) to rise it up from the ground and offer some additional cooling (I use empty tea candles to rise mine) whereas the new X1 has a nice big, obvious fan right on top of it. The new Dualshock looks worse as well with the lightbar on front.

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Oh looks like they didn’t move the lightbar to the front, but has a function to shine the light through the touchpad. My bad.

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No mention anywhere on “native” 4K. An oversight or an intended omission because it isn’t ?

I believe you answered the question yourself ;-)

potbellieddwarf 08 September, 2016 @ 17:18
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I have copied and pasted this from the bottom of the main product page

*4K TV required. Outputted by graphic rendering or upscaled.

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no native 4k

What I’m missing: Will games that have NOT been patched for the PS4 Pro, also benefit from the PS4 Pro ? Or will they look exactly the same on PS4 and PS4 Pro ?

Mr_LOVE_MACHiNE_ 08 September, 2016 @ 16:37
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They clearly said every single game will look better on the Pro. They’re working on patches for a number of games that are already out to give them the full “Pro” treatment though. So every game will look better, but the patched ones will look the best.

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I’m actually more worried about the size of these patches than I am glad for the minor advantages it’ll bring. Already hate having to install patches that make the initial install file larger if they focus on something I never use (multiplayer updates in games where I don’t play multiplayer for example). Would hate to see large updates (+5 gigs) and downloads on every game just for some minor visual extras.
I might have to keep even fewer games installed then..

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Will we get a Limited Edition ps4 pro of “MGSV:TPP complete edition” or “the Witcher 3 Complete Edition” soon? (this question is very important to me and maybe only to me)

Nope, the Question is very important!

Will it be able to run enhanced graphics while hooked up to 4K TV but set up to output in 1080p? I would rather choose 1080p 60 fps or 1080p with better FX than 4K 30fps with PS4(original) level of FX.

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I would assume so, I hear that Rise of the tomb raider will have 3 modes. 4K/30, 1080/60 and 1080/30 with better visuals.
And if that isn’t an option in the system settings or game then you could just force it to by using an older hdmi cable.

have these greed mongers finally decided to give us backward compat yet? That’s the only thing I want to hear, from now and until all future updates from $ony. Nothing else matters, VR is not all that important, (low) high end specs aren’t that important. I already have an Xbox One for all that. I just want to play older system titles that I’ve purchased on my PS4.

So… you bought a brand new console, and your main goal was to play old games? Why didn’t you get a PS3? :-S

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It’s not the main goal just a nice feature to have, especially for people who don’t want to have two or more consoles at one time. Xbox One users don’t have to buy an Xbox 360 to play Deus Ex: Human Revolution before they play Deus Ex: Mankind Divided. They can just play both on Xbox One without needing to have a second console.

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What Jedi said.. It’s funny how they enforce the business that keeps heading more towards ‘non-physical’ media but refuse to incorporate BC to make some more $$$ off remasters and last-gen console sales.
I have never been a huge advocate of BC since I always owned their previous consoles, but these days it would be a nice extra, if only to keep your active consoles from piling up. And even more so, simply because the competition does manage to offer it. Who would’ve guessed the guys who introduced DRM and online payments would eventually come across as more generous to the public… How times have changed and how success can bring even the best down to size..

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AskingAlexandro 08 September, 2016 @ 16:30
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Sony you have got to be kidding me no support for 4K UHD BLU RAY?!?! The new Xbox will but the guys who introduced Blu Ray wont??

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According to Andrew House this is because the movie entertainment is moving over to streaming but I disagree. I believe this was a choice to keep the price down

Maybe I am wrong but aren’t all 4K TVs also smart TVs and have Netflix, YouTube and Amazon prime already available? I just think a 4K blu ray player would’ve actually been beneficial.

@Lovack If you have a high end home theatre system including a high end TV and compare Netflix with a physical blu-ray, you’ll see why us enthusiasts are very frustrated

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jugadorcurioso11 08 September, 2016 @ 16:32
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quisiera saber si los que tenemos un ps4 estándar podremos hacer una especie de cambio a un ps4 pro ?

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Y porque? acaso los usuarios de la XBOX One hicieron el cambio a una XBOX One S. No es Apple que mantiene esa relacion con el cliente. SONY perfectamente puede no hacerlo y no estaría cayendo en una ninguna clase de timo o menos precio a sus clientes, es una perdida de dinero y el Gamer promedio compra no “canjea”.

User replaceable hard drives in the PS4 Pro? I’m going to assume so, but it’s hard to make out where you access the HDD on this thing.

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You can access it from the back. There’s a panel on the bottom right.

Hi, what are the buttons eject/power on ps4 pro? Touch or actually buttons?

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I want to know that too! Its because of the powerbutton I’m in the market for a new ps4 I don’t want these problems again.

Mr_LOVE_MACHiNE_ 08 September, 2016 @ 16:34
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This UHDBD thing is going to be a pebble in your shoe Sony. I don’t particularly care about it but I know plenty of folks that wanted it. I honestly think it would have been a better decision to include it. Even if the console would have costed a bit more.

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For this reason I’m actually not buying it and getting the Xbox 1s as HDR is available on the standard ps4 in the update. I know it’s a games console but if it works best with a 4K to why not let it play content designed for 4K!!!

If we have the standard controller can we buy the new seperatly?
And also can we swap the hdd of the ps4 pro with hdd of the standard ps4 intead of copiying every thing??

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No, because fractions of the PS4 Pro OS have different features.

Entering a new HDD will require you to format it and install the OS via USB.

Each HDD is exclusive to the console it’s being used on. It’s been like that since PS3. I tried “transplanting” the HDD from my launch PS3 to my Slim PS3 and it’s impossible. You’re forced to format the HDD on the new console.

Imagine the business people could have without this. They’d install all of their games on a HDD then sell the HDD and account details to has many people as they could. This is most probably a anti-piracy system more than anything else.

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Why only 1terabyte of HD and not 2?

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To keep the price to an entry level point

I really can’t see this going well… This could have been so much more but there’s just not enough reason for me to upgrade.

If it had been more, it would have been a generation leap and I think the point was to keep it at reach of the original PS4. Just better performance for whoever is interested. Probably not for current users but for those who are yet to get into the PS4 train.

I have a PS4 now, if I buy a PS4 Pro and let my son use my old PS4 in his room will he be able to access the digital content installed on my PS4?

I’d be keen to upgrade and then make use of the old console, I know this isn’t an option on 2 PS4’s but will this be an option with a PS4 PRO and PS4 combination?

Yes. Just keep the original PS4 set as your primary console so he can access your digital content with a different PSN ID (anyone logged into your primary console can play your games and even share PS+). You will need to be connected to the internet all the time though to access your digital content.

I do this currently with 2 PS4s.

Oh why why why didn’t they make it play UHD Blu rays. For that I’m buying an Xbox 1s u stupid idiots

Wow… some people just can’t wait to choose between the 30 available UHD Blurays, among which amazing movies like Fantastic 4, the Amazing Spiderman 2 or Pixels :)

I have an Xbox One S and 4K TV, I have one UHB Bluray (Mad Max)… trust me, having a UHD drive isn’t an absolute necessity right now :)

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Xbox one s doesn’t play games on 4k. I think they call it project Scorpio that has 4K gaming.

– How will PS4 Pro works in terms of digital content licenses in relation to the standard model? Will it be possible to have a standard PS4 and a PS4 Pro both set as a Primary system for the same account?

– Will 15mm thick hard disks fit into the PS4 Pro without modding or we’re still limited to 9.5 mm hard disks like with the original model?

Will games take more space from her since it has a 4k version for ps4 pro? Supposing I have a 4k tv and ps4 pro

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Yes. The extra coding required for the updated overall specs will add to the memory. It shouldn’t be a significant change but if you have a crammed hard drive it may be a problem. It will be minor, not enough to warrant the upgrade of the Blu-ray Disc player that’s for sure.

I guess that if a game is patched for 4K textures, then it’ll take up more space.

That is why I believe that the 4K version of games will be patched over the original version available to the normal PS4. It wouldn’t make any sense making the 4K textures available to the regular PS4 owners, taking up more HDD space.

Can I simply swap my old PS4 which it has 2TB harddisk into a new PS4 Pro while keeping all content I have with latest firmware ? So I don’t have to back up so many thing and it’s very time consume to do since the new one only have 1 TB.

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Same question:)

No, you can’t, because when you put a hard drive into a PS4, the first thing it does is format it. So you can’t take a hard drive and put it as is in another console.

There are some new backup and transfer options which might help you in the console settings, but I don’t think you can do what you said.

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No but you can copy the content over using a LAN cable or doing a backup and restore and following the process of making the new PS4 your primary device

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What I’m getting from it is that it doesn’t provide enough extras or fancy named technologies to warrant a new console purchase (unless maybe you own a 4K), but does manage to make your standard model look obsolete.
Furthermore, the few advantages have to be incorporated in the games by the developer, so it’s not always a sure thing. In a way this reminds me a lot of 3D. Some optional technologies that require the latest TV’s of the moment and may or may not be included in games, depending on what the developer does. And we all know how well that did… Oh well, if anything it’s a clever ploy to sell some 4K televisions :) My 52 inch Bravia that cost me an arm and a leg won’t be getting replaced anytime soon. While I’m glad this is optional and don’t feel obliged to get this, I find it harder and harder to find myself in Sony’s philosophies (which initially started this generation as soon as they announced online costs, that would be combined with the PS+ sub to make matters worse)....

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What I’m getting from it is that it doesn’t provide enough extras or fancy named technologies to warrant a new console purchase (unless maybe you own a 4K), but does manage to make your standard model look obsolete.
Furthermore, the few advantages have to be incorporated in the games by the developer, so it’s not always a sure thing. In a way this reminds me a lot of 3D. Some optional technologies that require the latest TV’s of the moment and may or may not be included in games, depending on what the developer does. And we all know how well that did… Oh well, if anything it’s a clever ploy to sell some 4K televisions :) My 52 inch Bravia that cost me an arm and a leg won’t be getting replaced anytime soon. While I’m glad this is optional and don’t feel obliged to get this, I find it harder and harder to find myself in Sony’s philosophies (which initially started this generation as soon as they announced online costs, that would be combined with the PS+ sub to make matters worse).
If this updating becomes a new fad in the console business there really isn’t much stopping us from crossing over to PC, which does have free online. :) Keep it up and you’ll lose at least one lifelong console/PS gamer to competition.

The Pro will upscale all games into 4K regardless of what the developer does. The developers can choose to use the extra processing power to their liking, better frame rates for smoother game play / 4K / HDR support.

While paying for plus is a downside I challenge you to buy a PC for £349 which would play AAA games in 1080p, never mind upscale them to 4K. I’ve also been with Sony since the beginning and I’m glad they’re making this a choice not forcing the upgrade.

Most of those questions are so obvious…

No UHD… right….

So I guess we can forget about native 4k. Can you explain how are you getting this resolution on PS4 Pro (what a lame name)? What upscaling process are you using? It’s funny how you talk about native 1080p but you don’t use native 4k.

Also “Ps4 games that render below native 1080[ on the standard PS4 can be elevated to render at full native 1080p on an HDTV” they key word is “can”. How many developers will actualy bother with patching it in?

1TB is not enough for me, I have 2TB in my PS4 and it is full. I would like to know if I can upgrade the HDD in the Pro to 4TB. I know my PS4 supports the capacity but the tray is not tall enough for the current 4TB 2.5″ disc drives. Will the Pro have a larger HDD slot?

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In the original PS4 It is not about the tray, it is about supporting 3.5 hdd which PS$ does not unless you use a NYKO databank or check some youtube videos to which allows you to use external 3.5 hdd

No. You are wrong. 4TB 2.5″ HDDs are available but they are too fat for the tray. You can fit them by damaging the tray but I don’t really want to be taking an angle grinder to the tray to fit one. The drive I know of by Samsung is 15mm thick but the tray only accepts up to 9mm.
So my question remains, and for clarity: will the PS4 Pro support 2 5″ drives that are 15mm thick rather than 9mm?

This guy managed it on PS4 but he has a newer model than me, the tray is slightly different so requires less butchering:
https://youtu.be/tj5s6vbYxhc

If I knew I could fit a 4TB drive in PS4 Pro I’d buy one day one. Having to delete games to upgrade new games is getting really annoying.

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Dolby atmos or DTS X support?

I would like to know this as well

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I have a 2TB hard drive in my PS4. If can’t just swap the hard drives over, how am I able to transfer my data over without having to erase the hard drive and redownload everything, or buy a new hard drive for the ethernet transfer?

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You copy over from the old console to the new one using a lan cable or do a backup on an external drive and restore on the new system

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That’s my concern exactly. The transfer over LAN feature seems ideal, but then I’ll have to get another 2TB hard drive if I want to copy everything over from my existing 2TB HDD…

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I have a ps4 destiny bundle and i want to change it with a ps4 pro

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No one has asked the main question how big is the hard drive going to be will it be upped from 500gig or 1 terabyte and if so to how much because I get tired of deleting games to put newer ones or dlcs on to my ps4 ?

Maybe nobody asked because it’s in the answers already? ;-)

“Outside of higher gaming performance, 4K TV features, and support for 4K video streaming, are there any other benefits to PS4 Pro?

Yes. PS4 Pro will come standard with a 1TB HDD, faster Wi-Fi (IEEE 802.11 a/b/g/n/ac), and a third USB 3.1 Gen.1 port on the rear of the unit.”

I got the same question as alot of other people here, i invested in a nice 1TB SSD for my ps4, would love to use that in my new ps4 pro, so can you switch out the HDD in the PS4 PRO just like you could in the standard PS4 ?

Will you be informing us soon which game would run with higher fps, 60 instead of 30, on Pro?

Now on my 2nd ps4. If you’re not going to increase the guarantee to 3 years no thanks. Paying for extra cover? Outrageous

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My PS4 is still going strong and got that the day they came one

Still in shock that they did not include a UHD Blu-Ray player. That was a mistake.

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Worse things have happened at sea..

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Really no 4k blu-ray drive! No 2TB drive and a 30fps…..how about limited edition ps4 pro? If not well I m really disappointed about it. And the price for trade in for ps4 is $125…..if there are no improvement for PS5 then I m going to move on to PC

Does it support ultrawide resolutions? (3440×1440 / 2560×1080)

Thats a very good question and i cant wait for someone to answer it!!!

Obsolete! Did someone call Matt and Jeff Hardy? I mean, Broken Matt and Brother Nero.

No Blu ray UHD player , but a licence given Xbox ones new offering 1-0 to Microsoft, come on Sony surely you can make money out of the new 4k Blu ray discs , all those people upgrading there favourite “old” Blu ray discs into those nice new shiny 4k UHD Blu ray £25 ones , disappointing

No white version, no 2tb hdd, no 4k bluray :(

Not sad about the UHD drive, but I’m only going to buy a white 2TB model. I hope they’ll announce something soon, maybe for Christmas?

Does it run crysis?

Sounds good, can we download the HDR Trailers of the Presentation somewhere to actually see what difference it makes for ourselves? Youtube Uploads are fine and good but Youtube doesn’t support HDR (yet?)

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If I didn’t have a ps4 right now then I probably would get this. But I will get either nintendo nx or Xbox Scorpio.

I am VERY disappointed about the lack of UHD Blu-ray support. I like to have my movie collection on disc so this is a deal-breaker for me! Also, the bandwidth requirement of netflix for 4k is huge and even so both the video and audio quality simply does not compare to physical blu-ray.

Also, I would like the PS4 to be more on par with the Scorpio regarding specs, even if it meant postponing the release.

What’s the point of having a “pro” version of PS4 if it’s not directed towards the enthusiasts?

I guess I’ll wait for the Scorpio

That is not how it works and this is for the enthusiasts, also this console was done way before Scorpio reveal, MS and Sony are on different roads these days just like Nintendo, they don´t even care about each others.

Streaming doesn’t seem to be that bad, I use Netflix 4K on my Samsung Smart TV without problems, although I don’t have super good connection (unfortunately).
I’m personally not sad about the UHD drive, but sucks to hear it will be incompatible with your library

If they would have greatly improved the specs then it would leap a generation and it would no longer be compatible with the current PS4. As it is today, the same game can be played on both consoles.

Plus the price would not be as low as 400€.
A top notch graphics card for a PC, one capable of running a game at 4K/60fps costs twice the price of a PS4 Pro. And that is only for the graphics card.

If you’re so interested in Bluray movies, maybe you should get a dedicated BD player. They’re definitely better and more quiet than a gaming console.

Will it be possible to order with larger memory. Maybe 2tb to 3tb. A lot of people I know are having to erase content in order to install updates or even new games.

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What I want to know: is the ps4 pro silent? My current launch Ps4 is really making to much noise to enjoy my games.

According to the specs, the maximum power consumption of PS4 Pro is 310 W. If they did not invent any state of the art cooling, the PS4 Pro will be presumably even noisier than PS4.

According to the specs, the maximum power consumption of PS4 Pro is 310 W. If they did not invent any state of the art cooling, the PS4 Pro will be presumably even noisier than PS4.

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Hmmmm. Yeah I was already afraid of that. If I want to have a quiet PS4 I better buy a slim version.

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Can the HDD on the PlayStation 4 Pro be Upgraded like the one in the previous PS4 ?

What about Internet?
Will the PS4 Pro download faster or same as PS4?

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My PS4 maxes out my 200Mbps connection, if the PS4 Pro can download faster that the PS4’s maximum (which I have not been able to determine because it maxes out my connection). I imagine very few people will see it.

Awesome. i´m there day 1 for better graphics and more stable fps, 4K is still not for me, too expensive so better graphics and fps will do it, also supersampled images? Awesome!

You can get a nice 40” 4K smart LED TV at Worten for around 400€. But it won’t be HDR.

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